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Planet is on fire!
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I always find the plastic straw thing being lumped in with climate change to be really annoying. Banning plastic straws isn't about climate change, it's about litter and waste. The problem with them is that they were getting all over the place and fucking with ecosystems. Fighting climate change is part of environmentalism, that doesn't mean all environmentalism goes towards fighting climate change.
Reminds me of the plastic soda rings that ended up destroying enormous amounts of sea life just by getting trapped around animals' necks and torsos.
Now we just use cardboard to hold beers, its functionally the same price, and the only thing filling up the oceans are the aluminum cans and the paper waste.
At least aluminum degrades better than plastics, is easier recyclable, and is worth much more (all incentives to recycle). We should add 50cts. on each alu can which is returned when you return the can. Watch how fast this issue resolves itself, then.
Paper is also at least very recyclable to the point that making paper out of paper is less Energy intensive than paper from wood. Only issue is bleaching, I guess?
Banning plastic straws isn’t about climate change, it’s about litter and waste.
Climate change is also a consequence of our productivism and "waste", by burning fossile fuels. We create too much stuff, we consume too fast that Earth can't restore itself fast enough.
Banning plastic straws was common sense, but it's not enough.
Also, at least in the EU, the laws have not just banned public straws but also a bunch of other single-use, non-degradable items. Plastic cutlery, qtips, and takeout food containers were banned too or severely limited. And there've been a lot of improvements that incentivise reusable containers over throwaway ones too.
The thing with single use containers is, that its not really existent. Its not enforced and a lot of restaurants don't care. I've never seen a single reusable food container in my entire life.
The real crime of this meme is tying climate change to the hypocrisy of some elites. Yes, some are hypocrites who fly private jets while preaching climate change. they're dumb. But the majority of my conservative friends use exactly this hypocrisy as evidence that climate change is a problem, and I see plenty of people here on Lemmy using it to justify not making any personal changes in their lives.
Even though I think banning unnecessary plastic items is fine and can lead to sensible innovation/more reuse, the debate around it is just a misdirection. Way more microplastic is due to car tyres or.fishing nets. Those have very big industries behind them that will fight tooth and nail against any regulation.
In other news, emissions from private jets still represent barely anything compared to emissions from freight transport of crap people want delivered at their door tomorrow.
Drop in a bucket maybe but it's for like 0.001% of the population. Which is an insane number per capita at this scale. Magnitudes is one of the biggest things people miss when talking about emissions, one single billionaire pollutes more every single day than thousands average people.
Every single one of us has to make efforts to combat climate change but some a lot more than others.
Comparing fright and person transport seams a bittle apple to oranges.
Emission per passenger-kilometer is the only sane way to compare person transport.
Fright should probably be separated into essenstials and luxury, but we all have our yearly footprint.
I thought we ended up learning that giant trucks delivering items door to door was actually greener than store chains since it stops millions of people driving around idling at stop lights constantly vs one truck delivering a shit ton of items.
That's the last leg of the journey, try again.
Well I have this giant pile of sauce here saying that you're incorrect... Or... Lol.
Or... You don't understand the distinction between stuff you get delivered to your door that comes to your country by plane instead of boat so you can get it ASAP and groceries?
Lol indeed.
Kecessa
Or... You don't understand the distinction between stuff you get delivered to your door that comes to your country by plane instead of boat so you can get it ASAP and groceries?
Lol indeed.
Goalposts: Moved.
We should create boats powered by renewable sources like the wind.
I feel like in the current climate of attitudes towards the super wealthy, they're taking steps to insulate themselves from "the commoners" like us.
Yes I know it's been that way forever; gated communities, etc... heck, even castles if you go back far enough.
But this new private jet thing seems like now even moderately wealthy people, those who would have likely in the past just flown first class, are trying to insulate themselves from a growing mob.
not their brightest idea, do they really think they will live forever in their bunker?
Not when people start publishing the locations of their bunkers for us 99%ers.
They need to be shown that there is no outside, but there are consequences.
At least plastic straws are banned.
Editor's Note: Plastic Straws are not actually banned.
EU is one really big economy who has banned plastic straws among other things so people have heard about their ban probably.
In other news, Silicone Valley Billionaires are building a quaint village in the desert - and look - a dome!
They needtosee consequences.
this just means there are more people who can fly their private jets to the next COP meeting
win-win !
It's the overpopulation of poor people obviously
time for a lil' war then...
We've always been at class war
Many of those flights have been made by politicians attenting climate meetings
Well at least they're doing something about the problem
I'd prefer they make it better instead of worse, but hey, you get what you get.
On their way to climate change conference...
