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Still new here and trying to figure things out. Regarding voting, I'd like to get some feedback on some thoughts I've had.

I get that voting D/R is pointless since Ds just seatwarm for Rs at best, and actively implement R policies at worst. They have no incentive to work for left policies, and R policies will ultimately benefit them personally.

That being said, we're "punished" for not voting D by getting an actual insane R in office. If Rs are in control its way worse, right? or, maybe it has to get worse to get better?

So what is the dominant strategy here for National elections? My personal vote is extremely minor and unimportant so keeping that in mind, I can:

  1. not vote - Lower participation rate shows I don't endorse the system, and if enough people don't vote, does it mean anything?

  2. vote third party - I like this idea since, although super unlikely, it gives more pressure to D and R to moderate (lol) as neither want to lose power. Write in votes aren't going to turn in to anything big without some serious organizing, but I don't know if there's ever been a serious attempt to organize a mass write in campaign? Or if there will even be a viable third party candidate in 2024?

  3. vote D - ๐Ÿคฎ

  4. Something else?

I haven't seen this discussed much in the short time I've been here so maybe I'm missing something obvious or misunderstanding something above, so would appreciate any help. Maybe the real answer is it really doesn't matter, but would like to make the best limited choice I can

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

You hold your nose and vote for the D.

Then you go out and work for good candidates in the D primaries.

Third party candidates only help the GOP. Anderson in 1980, and Nader in 2000. The GOP was pouring money to the Greens and Libertarians in 2016.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Lol real "the Democrats cannot fail, they can only be failed" energy here. If the dems were serous about appealing to left voters they could adopt leftist policies, but every election they instead put all their energy into browbeating the left for not voting for some centrist dipshit hard enough.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nader in 2000

lol, imagine still whining about Nader and not realizing 2000 was a stolen election.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Lol never again. Dems are worse than worthless. If you want people to vote for you, give us something to vote for

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

if I have to hold my nose, why am I doing it? shouldn't they be responsive to their voters? or perhaps the party only exists to funnel energy away from the popular left... hmmmmmmmm

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Rather hold my D and vote for my nose (as a write-in)

If third party voters keep costing Dems elections, then maybe they should try doing something to win us over lol.