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🆕 Updates to OrangeFren.com

We have recently added tabs to find providers for swaps between fiat and crypto 💱

We currently list offers from Bisq and AgoraDesk 💔.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

@OrangeFren @monero Why make a non-federated forum? You can run a Lemmy or a Discourse instance, and let people from monero.town and beyond participate in discussions. Otherwise there won't be much activity

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

This is a great question and it was a difficult choice. If it doesn't work out in this paradigm then we'll experiment with a federated one.

We looked into the stats of various federated forums (lemmy, nostr) and found that they are all dying. Slowly, but seemingly irreversibly. Furthermore, the forums that actually bring us, and our partners, the most profit are all centralized. Bitcointalk, BestChange, and of course Dread, Reddit and Twitter although those are general-purpose platforms.

edit: Just to add to that comment. Companies we work with, ourselves as well, spend tens of thousands of USD per month on advertising on these non-federated platforms and forums. They do so, because it pays off. I have yet to see a single such effort on a federated platform. If someone else tests it and finds it to be a viable investment, we'll of course follow suit

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

@OrangeFren

You don't need to be on Lemmy to follow it. I don't have a Lemmy account. The Fediverse is far from dying, even if specific software is not in the headlines.

Regardless, please consider an open standard. Centralization within the privacy coin space has always confused me.

Don't waste energy on Nostr. That has never been organic and only exists because of some VC crap, which is drying up this year anyway.

@silverpill

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@OrangeFren @monero Activity in Lemmy network might have subsided since the Reddit Migration, but it is certainly not dying. Today there are 768 instances with the largest one having 18469 MAUs.
The important thing about federation is that there is no downside. You get a regular forum with all benefits of a self-hosting, but now people don't have to register on it in order to participate. For example, monero.town currently has 83 MAUs, and you can access that audience for free simply by using a different software.
I previously mentioned Discourse, which has a federation plugin, but it is not the only forum engine to choose from. NodeBB is working on federation (almost finished), and Flarum too. These engines will be fully interoperable with Lemmy, and partially with micro-blogging apps like Mastodon and Threads.
So, yeah, you're right about this being an uncharted territory, but I see a lot of potential here

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

@silverpill @monero @OrangeFren I wish LemmyBB wasn't dead ;_;

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] discourse federates?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

@pomstan

Yes.

https://github.com/discourse/discourse-activity-pub

It is currently being tested at SocialHub (though only selected topics are federated, @[email protected] and a couple of others)

@monero @OrangeFren

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

@silverpill @OrangeFren @monero

And there's also good, well formatted ActivityPub federation with these too:

- nodeBB
- PieFed

#tallship

⛵

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Is there a Tor and/or I2P gateway to the forum?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Yes there is, you can just prepend the subdomain to our existing Tor and I2P domains, so: Tor: http://forum.rnwis2whetqcj4oknksnc5l24jbh33nflunifff3xtjjonnoxu3ld6id.onion I2P: http://forum.h74rtjzibohtgaehqyvy3cquqrsgn3pyxxqzwiw3u7mxal6n66ra.b32.i2p

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

you guys are awesome as usual. thank you for stepping up

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Thank you! <3

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

by the way, why do you have AgoraDesk listings if AgoraDesk is shutting down? aren't they in withdraw-only mode?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@Scolding0513 @OrangeFren not yet... they gave one week to keep trading... it will be 6 months to withdrawl

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Exactly

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Google and cloudflare insights on an opsec forum?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

We're working on loading all the fonts locally so Google will be no more. However, we're keeping CF on the clearnet version. We get to many DDoSes to disable CF. Our Tor and I2P mirrors are free of CF stuff, but also go offline sometimes when the attacks are too powerful

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Why do you need 2 captchas?