this post was submitted on 17 May 2024
296 points (98.4% liked)

Steam Deck

14245 readers
486 users here now

A place to discuss and support all things Steam Deck.

Replacement for r/steamdeck_linux.

As Lemmy doesn't have flairs yet, you can use these prefixes to indicate what type of post you have made, eg:
[Flair] My post title

The following is a list of suggested flairs:
[Discussion] - General discussion.
[Help] - A request for help or support.
[News] - News about the deck.
[PSA] - Sharing important information.
[Game] - News / info about a game on the deck.
[Update] - An update to a previous post.
[Meta] - Discussion about this community.

Some more Steam Deck specific flairs:
[Boot Screen] - Custom boot screens/videos.
[Selling] - If you are selling your deck.

These are not enforced, but they are encouraged.

Rules:

Link to our Matrix Space

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 97 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Imagine being so insanely wealthy, you can afford to leave money on the table and shoot yourself in the foot at the same time. Disgusting.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago

It's EA, I'm surprised they're not making the minimum requirements Windows 11.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

How dumb does one have to be to intentionally drop support for the hottest game console of the year?!

It boggles my mind.

Also, as a non-pirate (by laziness, not by conviction), I feel like I'm being offered an eye patch, a hook and a parrot every time I interact with a AAA game publisher.

Edit: I keep half expecting EA or Capcom to publish a press release outlining their favorite ways to obtain their games without paying, in order to work-around their own bullshit DRM. It's bizarre that they really think this crap is helping them.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think they just got tired of everyone hating Blizzard and Sony, and decided to remind us all that we used to hate EA the most.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I'm curious if they still have the most downvoted comment on Reddit.

Edit: Yep.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Jesus, and by an entire order of magnitude, too. I forgot about that.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 3 months ago

as the saying goes: play EA games, win EA prizes

[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Steam should allow you to download older versions when companies pull bullshit like this.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is the equivalent of Sony requiring PSN account in countries where no PSN account exist. Just on a different technical level, but with the same outcome. This should be illegal.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm surprised Valve hasn't pushed a condition about this in their contracts stating that they can get a Verified badge only if they agree to keep the Steamdeck as a supported platform.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This game never was verified. It was playable despite being unsupported, which it is not anymore.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Oh yeah I read platinum on protondb and thought it was verified, my bad.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That or adding to all the games from the same publisher that are verified a badge meaning “has intentionally made become games unsupported in the past”

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I like that. If they add that, I'll spend more money with them in games I'm currently waiting to buy because I don't trust the publisher.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

The main thing I can see being wrong with my idea is that, if enough publishers do it, it’s going to be a pointless badge.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Surely there isn’t that big of a cheating problem in a fucking rally driving video game, to the point where you need ring 0 anti cheat?

Regardless, this rise in invasive anti cheat is getting seriously annoying. I hope the right person gets pissed off and finds a way to make them run on Linux for the sake of the rest of the community, but even still, I’ll continue to play single player experiences and leave my mental health intact.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Every single version of DiRT Rally has MASSIVE cheating problems

Really spoiled the online stages

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

Really spoiled the online stages

And now this change spoils single player.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

While neither EA nor Steam ever said anything about support for Linux or the Steam Deck (the store page stated unsupported), it's still a dick move inserting kernel level ~~antichrist~~ anticheat MONTHS after release, altering the deal and making the product a security and privacy nightmare!

Also a really bad business decision to scare future buyers away, with Linux gaming gaining traction thanks to Steam Deck and the likes.

I personally won't buy anything from EA going forward and stick to my statement from the games Steam forum:

Another reason to just wait before buying a game, especially from large corpo publishers like EA!
Releasing unfinished, buggy games for prices north of 60 bucks AND "altering the deal" MONTHS later, rendering the product either unplayable or making it a security and privacy nightmare, is a big, BIG pile of BS!

Don't let the FOMO get you, learn from this.
Make your voices heard and place an appropriate review!

And by all means: try to get a refund!

...or this WILL happen again!

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think it's hilarious with the market for Linux handhelds this hot that these companies are still like "ew no thanks"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

I think it’s hilarious with the market for Linux handhelds this hot that these companies are still like “ew no thanks”

I don't think the technical details reach the people making the decisions. They may have heard "Steam Deck works with PC games" (because there is no distinction between PC and Windows for them) and then don't allocate resources for a proper port to Steam Deck.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago

Clearly EA weren't satisfied with only getting the "worst company in America" award twice.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago (24 children)

Yet another proof that Proton is a great stop-gap solution but Valve should be pushing game publishers to make native Linux ports.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If a company isn't willing to support steam deck/Linux through an easier support option like proton, I highly doubt they'll be willing to support it with higher effort native ports.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

As a hardcore Linux fan, the only way I see game devs publishing native Linux ports is when when it has a >30% market share.

But I'm pretty sure the publishers will still come up with excuses like "The Linux platform is uncontrollable; there is no way to verify the platform integrity because everyone has root"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

As a hardcore Linux fan, the only way I see game devs publishing native Linux ports is when when it has a >30% market share.

For Valve Linux isn't just another OS. It's their Steam Deck platform which they could promote towards publishers the same way as console makers promote their platforms. This story once again shows that chasing Windows compatibility without using Windows is a stepping stone but not the final answer.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Valve isn't promoting native ports in the first place and suits only know "Works with Windows games, we don't need to care about details".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They already tried that in the Steam Machines era. It clearly wasn't working.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They already tried that in the Steam Machines era. It clearly wasn’t working.

Steam Deck is way more successful than 3rd party Steam Machines. The comparison makes zero sense because it ignores all developments since then.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It would be just as (un)popular as the Steam Machines if it wasn't for Proton, that's my whole point.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

It would be just as (un)popular as the Steam Machines if it wasn’t for Proton, that’s my whole point.

Which part of "Proton is a great stop-gap solution" makes you think I'm opposed to Proton?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

They would still want kernel level anti-cheat in that case.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

We don't need native Linux ports. Valve already created Linux compatible DRM anti-cheat and I'd be surprised if they weren't pressuring publishers to use it at all.

I really don't know what more they can do, other than refusing to sell games that don't work on Linux, which would obviously hurt them very badly, considering that makes up ~2% of their customers.

load more comments (21 replies)
[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago

People are still buying EA shit.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

Good thing I was already de facto boycotting EA games. Not necessarily out of conviction, but because all of them are total shit and simply not worth my time anyway, especially compared to what else is on offer elsewhere. Haven't even started on BG3 yet.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Cool, I won't buy shit from EA anyways.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

I hate this game anyway. Codemasters was my favorite dev until EA bought them. Game stutters on high end PC hardware. Wouldn't even try on the Deck.

load more comments
view more: next ›