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[-] [email protected] 97 points 1 month ago

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Some folk are having difficulty figuring out that there aren't any good guys here. We have (in no particular order):

Hamas, who are killing and raping innocent civilians, maintaining military rule, and generally being some of the most prominent examples of why theocracy is bad.

Israel, who's doing a genocide and helped ensure Hamas was in power because Hamas is fucking evil and thus easy to hate.

The US who is supplying the former, and thus making things easier for them. Simultaneously, Biden appears to be trying to get a bunch of countries to form a peacekeeping force, but frankly I'm not giving him points for that. (Ofc, this does not mean you shouldn't vote for him. Trump is worse.)

A large ammount of civilians who are being pushed by the first two into making each other victims and being brainwashed into thinking that one or the other is good.

The closest we have to a good guy in this scenario is fucking Egypt who's participating in a scheme to maintain a peacekeeping force. And as far as I remember not doing anything shady that's relevant. Reminder that this is the country that periodically comes out with a magical AIDS-curing laser.

[-] [email protected] 77 points 1 month ago
[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

In 1000 years you'd have Israel/Hamas all over again, but it would be Cabelas/BassPro

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Cabelas is owned by bass pro so... that's a good analogy actually.

[-] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago

You forgot that Hamas is run by people who spend most of their time living extravagantly in their sugar daddy countries.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There was actually news that an Egyptian spy manipulated the peace process. His task was to talk with Israel and Hamas regarding a ceasefire. He manipulated the Hamas offer – which Israel accepted – without talking to Hamas with the goal to make Israel back off from the agreement.

So far no one knows why he did that. If he was Putin's puppet or if it was orders from Egypt. But it shines a bad light onto Egypt's role.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I can't think of a single motivation for doing that.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Putin loves chaos and dissent in Europe. Everything that escalates the situation in Israel and Palestine is good for him.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah, that tracks.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

The good guys are the innocent victims on both sides. However, since one side has considerably more power than the other, the amount of victims they can rack up is far higher.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

That doesn't really fit my platonic ideal of "good guy" but it's a decent characterization nonetheless.

[-] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago

If only they had the power to bonk, instead of just to threaten bonks

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

They can curb Netanyahu's capacity to travel, and pressure Israel to vote him out of office, or be thought of as Bibi's little collective bitch.

Similarly, George W. Bush and his administration can't leave the US for fear of arrest. Despite the Storm the Hague law, the US won't be storming the Hague even if ex-presidents stand trial by internal tribubal.

[-] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago

That's pumping up Hamas a considerable amount. Maybe one of those auto dealer inflatable gorillas, but not King Kong.

[-] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago

I mean, in an actual fight, that one movie notwithstanding, King Kong shouldnt exactly be an equivalent to Godzilla, he managed to get himself killed by being shot up by some aircraft mounted guns and falling off a building, while Godzilla can tank a nuke and fire radioactive plasma from his mouth

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago
[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Goddesszilla

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

And lay a ton of self-fertilized eggs, all at the same time. There are only two genders, but she can switch as needed.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

My understanding is Hamas was supplied by Iran to start some trouble in Gaza to provoke Israel into a brutal retaliation, since Netanyahu was already known to be itching for an excuse to go all genocide (as confirmed by the IDF using cluster bombs in excess and blockbusters in civilian-occupied urban areas).

Hamas, emboldened with its new materiel, went hard and Netanyahu was gleeful for the opportunity to massacre more Palestinians, even resort to contrived famine to do it.

All while smart phones on the ground recorded the carnage up close and personal, which leaked to the internet for all to see.

So Hamas is not a military giant, but they played their part with aplomb

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Shit even Iran would have a tough time being King Kong now that I think about it.

[-] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago

Frame 3: the US Government enters the frame to the right, swinging a bat labelled Hague Invasion Act

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Frame 4 EU Lady steps up with the shield and the US finds out Europe isn't toothless.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

It would be funny if that happens since the EU is having problems with Russia too. Will Russia help the EU (by proving that America is not as powerful as they'd like to think) or take advantage of the situation I wonder.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Oh my, Baltic Czech Republic is right there...

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

While it's cool I doubt it'll do much

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago
[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

They are doing everything they were created to do!

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

There's many a slip twixt "I am applying for a warrant" and any real consequences or end to the killing

I mean it's a good start and the fact that Israel and the US are freaking out about it so much is a pretty strong sign that it's on the right track, but it's still just a start so far

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Are they standing on an aircraft carrier? It could only be Kuznetsov, no other carrier is so stable under the weight of all that monster.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

All I see is smoke and fire, so yeah it's the Kuznetsov confirmed

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