If you’re anti soviet union then you’re pro nazi germany
ending the soviet union is kinda the nazis thing
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If you’re anti soviet union then you’re pro nazi germany
ending the soviet union is kinda the nazis thing
I remember back in 2003, when liberals were able to call Bush out on his "with us or against us" shit. I swear something badly broke liberals (more than usual) in the last decade.
they are being scratched
I mean, yeah, but it seems like liberals have been really, really unhinged since 2016.
for sure. blue maga is too real
The establishment neocons and blue dog D's started being as loudly anti-Trump as possible, which grew the Democrat's tent. When your hammer is anti-Trump, anything Trump agrees with is a nail.
Yeltsin and Putin both wanted to join NATO:
Even Stalin tried a little to join NATO
in the year 885, shortly after founding Kievan Rus, Oleg the Wise proclaimed, “ending nato is kinda our whole thing”
The entire purpose of NATO was to destroy the USSR. But the USSR does not exist anymore. So now, its only purpose is to keep the military-industrial complex going. American corporations are 100% willing to immiserate the people of Eastern Europe and even Germany (Nordstream) to keep their weapons sales up. Hey, we abandoned Iraq and Afghanistan, and Taiwan is too risky - gotta use those weapons somewhere.
The goal is to "Latin Americanise" Eastern Europe and let them join the EU on unequal terms. Ask Greece how that goes when the EU has a financial crisis.
How can anyone be pro NATO? It's part of the imperial core/triad's powers monopoly on military force and intervention, that oppresses left wing or even general anti colonial movements globally, including within their own countries. There are plenty of people in the global south that are anti NATO and not even left wing! Imagine being to the right of Imran Khan on the issue of NATO and global monopolies of power!
If you are not against the imperial core/triad practicing a form of collective imperialism and neocolonialism by the use of organisations like NATO, the World Bank, IMF and the WTO, how can you even be on the left? Is the left not internationalist?
If you do not oppose the "monopoly of five advantages" the imperial core/the west aims to have in weapons of mass destruction, mass communication systems, financial and banking services, technology and access to natural resources through imperial rents, how can you even have hope for a better world?
If we can support Syria and Iran critically, we can do the same for Russia in its fight against American imperialism.
amen. emphasis on critically tho. too many liberals think “critical support” means “super extra support”. all of us here understand that Russia is capitalist and pretty horrible on LGBTQ rights (not rlly worse than amerika tho). the difference is that NATO represents western empire: an institution that suppresses most of the world and extracts $10 trillion every year from the global south. Russia’s imperial ambitions are strictly regional, thus much easier to curtail by AES states. the global empire is infinitely more harmful to the proletariat of the world than a regional empire. im preaching to the choir here but i hope lemmy libs read this and understand
I tried replying to that comment, but the thread was locked or something.
I'm anti-nato and anti-russia, fuck all imperialism. This take really pissed me off
yeah thread got locked shortly after Ada replied
welcome home btw no chasers tolerated here, or any other form of bigotry. only left unity as far as the eye can see
ending nato is kinda russias whole thing
I think you got that backwards pal, Russia’s whole thing is being a large country where people live. The military alliance formed with the single goal to encircle and eventually destroy the Soviet Union on the other hand, they’re kinda focused on destroying Russia
People don't realize that all these "evil" states that are around are given their power by the US/NATO serving as a unifying boogie man. Russia has power with non-western countries because western foreign policy has been horrible over the hundreds of years. If you're really anti-russia, you also have to be anti-NATO. I do not like what I know about Russia, but they're only truly powerful as the counter end to NATO. If NATO disappeared overnight, Russia would become less powerful, not more powerful. It's like the second Americans left Afghanistan, the Taliban is already starting to show cracks.
If you're pro-nato you're not a "leftist", you can be "on the left" or a "progressive"; but you're not a leftist
I wonder how Libyans feel about this:
NATO gave informal promises to Gorbachev to not expand eastward (Gorbachev was stupid to believe these promises and not get them in writing as formal, legally-binding promises)
The Soviet Union tried to join NATO in 1954 but wasn't allowed
Meanwhile NATO kept expanding
and including "former" nazis in its ranks