Any group running "online polls" and expecting them to not be flooded with false info and bots is absolutely insane.
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Convicted Sex Offender Treason Trump is the most hated politician in America. He is the "most corrupt president in history", according to Bernie Sanders, and "the worst president in history", according to a presidential rating of hundreds of historians.
Reminder that Steve Bannon frankly confessed Trump’s Start the Steal conspiracy plans to a group of Trump insiders before the election.
https://www.npr.org/2022/07/22/1112138665/jan-6-committee-hearing-transcript
…audio from Trump advisor, Steve Bannon, surfaced from October 31st, 2020, just a few days before the Presidential election.
Let’s listen. [Begin Videotape]
STEVE BANNON: And what Trump’s going to do is declare victory, right? He’s going to declare victory, but that doesn’t mean he’s a winner. He’s just gonna say he’s a winner. The Democrats — more of our people vote early that count. Theirs vote in mail. And so they’re going to have a natural disadvantage and Trump’s going to take advantage — that’s our strategy.
He’s gonna declare himself a winner. So when you wake up Wednesday morning, it’s going to be a firestorm. Also — also if Trump is — if Trump is losing by 10 or 11:00 at night, it’s going to be even crazier. Because he’s gonna sit right there and say they stole it. If Biden’s wining, Trump is going to do some crazy shit.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The former president is currently on trial in New York over claims he falsified business records to conceal the payment of hush money to a former pornographic actress ahead of the 2016 presidential election, with the prosecution delivering its closing arguments on Tuesday.
During this time, 372,689 respondents answered the question drawn from those who signed up to take part in Civiqs' surveys, which the company says it monitors to provide a "representative sample" of the American population for each poll.
Speaking to Newsweek, Mark Shanahan, an American politics expert who teaches at the University of Surrey in the U.K., said Biden was struggling to get his economic message to resonate with the public.
"It will be worrying for his campaign that although Biden has been visible in the swing states, his rival, who has largely been stuck in a New York court room, is still seen to have more effective economic policies.
When approached by Newsweek, a spokesperson for Civiqs said: "President Biden's job approval rating is lower in the presidential battleground states than it is nationwide.
Polling by Civiqs of 486,369 respondents online between January 20, 2021, and May 27, 2024, revealed President Joe Biden's popularity in a number of the key states that could decide the 2024 presidential election was lower than in the country as a whole.
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I really hate this timeline and it's infuriating that the Biden admin seems to be so flippant about another Trump presidency. Yes Biden and Co. keep saying "Trump bad" but that's it! FIGHT FOR US JOE! JFC! Give the people tangible policies to vote for. You should be running away with this vote against Trump.
Give the people tangible policies to vote for.
This is bad advice because that's obviously not what's attracting Trump voters. What Biden and the Democrats really need to do is give a reason for voters to shun the Republican party and Trump especially, or basically do what Republicans are doing to Democrats.
If you can move the debate to actual policies, Dems will always win. Problem is the interest in presenting this as a horse race, and the focus on outrage quotes. That includes Lemmy- Politics where the few topics on actual policy get few upvotes, and activity.
Exactly. And Democrats have been trying to push their policies as good ones since forever. But outrage politics that so popular from TikTok to the NYT focuses more on the moral failures of politicians than their policy prescriptions or outcomes. That's why they believe Biden is a pedophile while Trump's name was on Epstein's plane list multiple times. Most people are going to hear that Biden is pedophile because it shows up on the news in some form repeatedly, while being completely unaware of Trump solidifying a place for himself in hell.
That's all to say, that yeah, it's a horse race, but it's not a horse race about winning exactly. It's about which candidate gets covered in the most horse shit and mud to deter voters. And the right-wing media ecosystem is vast and repetitive.
Exactly. He should be doing something about student loan debt. Like blanket forgiving it and if they stop him in the courts then he should turn around and use the judgements to identify more narrow actions he should take. He should get rid of the bs of companies calling all their employees exempt and not paying overtime. Or do something about non compete clauses in contracts. Or fight the roe vs wade and get an over the counter birth control pill available. At least get passed a large budget bill that prioritizes encouraging energy efficiency and green energy. Maybe getting our aging infrstructure more healthy while your at it. How about do something about all these bs fees companies charge. Or hey given jan 6th how about revising the law to make it clear the vice president can't just choose the presidential electors. Maybe incentivize important production capacity for the country like microchips. Cancers been around for awhile. How bout putting more effort toward eliminating that. Or jeesh at least make the airlines not blow you off if they cancel a flight. I mean common. Show us something with the one term youve gotten. Anything at all. Something we can measure against trumps accomplishments in the term he got.
It's honestly getting infuriating how people around here don't want to acknowledge what Biden's been doing the last 3 years. Yours is one of the few positive comments I've seen about JB in months.
I have said it before but I am blown away by what he has accomplished in one term with such an adversarial setup. I loved obama but he pretty much flushed his first term down the toilet trying to work with the rebulicans. Granted joe had that as a lesson learned by that time. There are to many lessons in recent history to ignore. How much better position would we be environment wise if the president after carter had not symbolically taken down the solar panels and had a deregulation emphasis and then put in gore whose main platform was global warming instead of bush jr. Then we have had 45 years of tax cuts (any time its been raised its by an insignificant amounts next to the cuts) and it has not been a good thing. As a matter of fact from my experience the time following tax increases have tended to be better right up to about when they cut them again.
As of February 21:
The Biden-Harris Administration has now approved nearly $138 billion in student debt cancellation for almost 3.9 million borrowers through more than two dozen executive actions.
Among knuckleheads and MAGA cultists probably. Who gives an eff? Elections are won by the independents. Most people in this country are not complete degenerates (thank God). They will have a hard time voting for a convicted felon and by the time Biden is done messaging, folks in the swing states are going to know he is one.
The problem isn't independents voting for Trump, the problem is getting the voters out to the polls. When there's a large turnout of voters, Dems win. It's Biden vs the couch right now. Biden has to get voters enthusiastic to go out and vote.