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[-] [email protected] 158 points 1 month ago

This is what happens when a company has no diversity. Most companies dogfood their own production. Reminds me of Google's gorilla situation...

[-] [email protected] 69 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This happens even on newer Toyotas, so it's not exactly company-specific. The issue is the biased training data used for the face recognition system.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This seems more like an excuse. All these companies aren't using the same training data.

They literally never tested this on an asian person before selling in the vehicle...

[-] [email protected] 73 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Toyota is a japanese manufacturer. Likely they localize the feature and the localized version has the problem. Its completely possible they all contract the same software vendors in the US for certification reasons, resulting in similar problems.

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Your claim is a Japanese company never tested on Asian people? Would you place a bet on those odds?

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Toyota in the US is more American than most American car companies. The tech being different isn't that big of a stretch.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Toyota is literally Japanese

[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

Nikon is too

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

That’s what I was thinking. How did this slip by? If I recall correctly, Toyota is better than average when it comes to quality control. This is Boeing-level laziness/incompetence.

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[-] [email protected] 135 points 1 month ago

Classic case of OWPITTS (only white people in the training set).

[-] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago

I am guessing the car wasn't made by Subaru or Nissan and is from Ford, GMC, Tesla, BMW, or Mercedes.

[-] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago

My Subaru has a driver attention feature that's constantly going off if I sit up straight because I'm too tall 🫠

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago
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[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Classic case of OSPITTS (only small people in the training set).

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

It happened to samsung's phones years ago.

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[-] [email protected] 59 points 1 month ago

There's an episode of American Auto where they make a self-driving car that can't see black people. It's a good show. Check it out.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Sounds like a similar episode of Better Off Ted. Also a great show that only got 2 seasons.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

It's all fun and games until the octochicken comes down from its web.

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[-] [email protected] 55 points 1 month ago

What does the system do when you wear sunglasses?

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Automatically voids the warranty

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[-] [email protected] 52 points 1 month ago

My car keeps screaming at me to keep my hands on the wheel, WHILE I'M FUCKING HOLDING IT.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

Dude. I'm never buying a new car. That shit is insane.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

You black with a black steering wheel or white with a white one?

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

My car's lane assist deactivates if the road is too straight because I haven't moved the steering wheel in too long. The only way to get it back is to swerve a bit.

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[-] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago

Lol just like the old Xbox Kinect failing miserably at seeing dark skinned black people correctly or at all

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[-] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago

There’s a Better Off Ted episode that hilariously addressed this issue.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

That show should have more seasons.

[-] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago

Sorry asians. You know what you have to do.

[-] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

My Ford transit kept telling me to pull over to rest. It was a windy day.

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[-] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago

My wife's Asian and only been driving 3-years. LMFAO, she would be a shaking crying mess if the car kept yelling at her to pay attention.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Car manufacturer tried to make a safer and more attentive driver through monitor and warning systems, accidentally causes crippling anxiety instead.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

I'm sure it is possible to disable this feature?

[-] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago

company vehicle. might not be allowed to for insurance reasons. 🤷‍♂️

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

The fun part is, company will get a higher premium after they go through data from that car and it's "sleepy" driver.

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Sue the company for racism and creating a hostile work environment.

I’m not sure how serious I am.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

You'd think they'd have learned from all the cameras that can't see black people....

This is racist as shit.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

It's actually probably not racist as shit.

I'm white with larger eyes. My car tells me the same thing. Constantly.

Yes I understand that facial recognition software is usually racist as shit, but this particular situation may just be shitty software rather than racist shitty software.

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

I remember this episode from Better Off Ted.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

i'ld try to stick some googly eyes on a headband to wear when driving. if it does not help, its at least good for a selfie.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Can people see why "DEI" programs are genuinely good things yet?

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Just in case anyone doesn't know the acronym: DEI is Diversity, equity, and inclusion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversity,_equity,_and_inclusion

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

My white guy sucks

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

There has to be a way to calibrate it, no? Something like this can't be designed without setting a baseline, and surely there's a ton of variance.

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