Well, I don't know if "niche" is the best term, but I'm still pretty alone posting on
I also started two others recently
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Part of the problem is the smaller instances don't even see those communities when you post, I was unaware of 75% of the communities you just listed. I have a micro instance, and if I don't subscribe I don't see it.
It's probably not much of an issue, given that most people are on a couple mega instances...
Hey, nice to see you here!
I know community discoverability can be an issue. When I launched [email protected] and [email protected], I used my alts on the top 10 instances to subscribe to them so that they would show in the All feed of those instances.
For small instances, I tried to post too to [email protected] and [email protected], but beyond that there isn't really much I can do.
There was a tool that could help address that (I don't have the name right now), but last time I tried it, it wasn't working, so I'm not sure it's that useful.
Good to be seen! Smart of you to preseed The larger instances good strategy
I think the clients are going to have to solve this, maybe look at the all feed on multiple servers, and then only show you what's different compared to your own server.
Discoverability is the key weakness of Lemmy, just like mastodon
Not sure clients might be the solution here, I think at the end people will have to choose
- go to a large instance and rely on other people to populate the All feed for you
- go to a small instance but know that you'll have to subscribe to most of the communities yourself
Are you familiar with Lemmy Federate? Participating instances get a bot that follows submitted communities to get them in feeds and then unsubscribes once a real user from the instance subs.
Ah, that's the cool I was looking for! Are we sure this tool is completely functional? The large number of "in progress" instances always gives me doubt
It used to be Lemmy Community Boost and I think it still works despite the status. I do keep meaning to track the developer down and give them a nudge.
I do see now that many instances have auto-add turned off, that could be what were seeing.
I'm not sure tbh. Pretty sure it's run by the lemy.lol admin?
The tool relies on community local subscriber count to unsubscribe and that value was not available from 0.19.0 to 0.19.3. I fixed the problem about 8 months ago but due to unfortunate timing, it didn’t reach prod from then.
In the end, the tool is working. The only problem is, it doesn’t know if it should unsubscribe on 0.19.0 to 0.19.3. So it stays in in progress state but still federates the community.
Once all instances upgrades to 0.19.4, it will work correctly both functionally and visually.
@[email protected] @[email protected]
Also @[email protected]; the auto add feature is for adding new local communities to the tool automatically. With it, users don’t need to add their communities manually to the tool because it will do it automatically.
But the federation is not relies on that tick. If the instance is enabled, it will subscribe to all communities no matter if auto add is enabled or not.
I guess I need to improve the explanations cuz at this state it is so confusing :) Maybe a FAQ page could be useful.
Thanks for the information - very useful. And yes, an FAQ would be handy, although if you wait long enough it'll be less necessary.
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The second scenario is viable, if Lemmy was a lot more vibrant, and had enough population that the niche communities could keep you busy. Right now I wake up and check Lemmy and I've gotten through all the new posts in 20 minutes. So it's getting kind of quiet
It is indeed quiet.
I wanted to try something and blocked all news/memes/tech/politics communities last week, my All feed is definitely much more quieter.
Which I don't mind, but there is definitely stuff to do to get it the communities "beyond memes-tech-news" active
Yeah you pretty much have to use https://lemmyverse.net/communities
There's a feature request here that would help https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2951
There’s a feature request here that would help https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2951
I remember this one, doesn't seem to get much traction unfortunately 😔
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Dragged Dragonball over to my instance.
Thanks!
@[email protected] can you create [email protected] so we can try and transition that community over to there blaze is doing amazing work in terms of making it feel active, but I'm all about decentralization. I also think @[email protected] and @[email protected] would both be great as part of the moderation team.
I do own lemmy.futbol if someone would want to co create an instance, but frankly I do not have a lot of free time so I could only help out in a supporting capacity
To be honest as mentioned elsewhere I'm not the most convinced about having all of the theme instances managed by rglullis.
Raphael, don't get me wrong, you are doing a very good job, and I really hope you'll succeed with your new NLNet grant, but having all of those instances depending on you, even if you seem to have a backup person, seems risky.
@[email protected], also the Euro 2024 is starting later this week, I think it's just too late to migrate now if we want a decent level of activity during the event. We can always revisit later, but I wouldn't move now.
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You really dislike "main", huh?
There is also [email protected], if you prefer.
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I've been most invested into helping [email protected] get going. It seems like there are plenty of lurkers and a growing amount of engagement by comments, but people are still shy about posting links or discussions. News in the genre has been slow the past couple months, though.
I tried with [email protected]. As a general rule, I'll prioritize posting content to smaller instances, and I picked out that community on my home instance to do so, but I think it's just not happening. I'm moving over to [email protected].
I'm also glad [email protected] is doing well. Seems like they've got a good plan going on over there, with relevant stickies, a useful sidebar, and link exchange.
Houseplants community seems great!
I like the houseplants stuff. I will add something useful to the bicycletouring sidebar too.
I started to post recently to [email protected], good activity over there (after all, it's Linux on Lemmy), other people have started posting there too
I'm really digging the Linux content on Lemmy, it's already pretty lively
To be fair, that's probably the one topic the vast majority of users care about ha ha
Good activity on [email protected], thanks to post from @[email protected] and
There is some progress on a potential bot, that would help for sure
Still a bit frustrating to see that the moderation team on [email protected] isn't doing much with that place, but that's life I guess
Good activity on [email protected], thanks to post from @[email protected] and @[email protected]
Happy to have somewhere to post film news - I get a tonne in my feed but there are so many film communities I hadn't got round to figuring out which to commit to. You helped that choice along.
Still a bit frustrating to see that the moderation team on [email protected] isn’t doing much with that place, but that’s life I guess
In the end, you can only worry about your own communities.
Yeah, I have a habit of sharing news that only really interests me. That's why I don't share everything I come across. A friend and I used to run a website together, and I got quite used to posting the latest film trailers and interesting news that I came across. Although sometimes I found it really hard to post news about films I didn't really care about. I had to write something to accompany the video.
Me too - the algorithm offers me a range of film news and I tend to only pass on stutt that interests me but I will try harder to share a wider range.
In the end, you can only worry about your own communities.
We still managed to got [email protected] locked down, so there is an extend of influence we can have even on other communities
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Kinda happy how at the start of the season [email protected] got a bit of traffic. But i'm not all that hopeful really because the regular bicycling subs with way more subscribers have also very little traffic. I sometimes wonder if all that even makes sense here if it isn't about computers, memes or politics.
The camping, ultralight, outdoor communities are pretty much just dead.
Kinda happy how at the start of the season [email protected] got a bit of traffic. But i’m not all that hopeful really because the regular bicycling subs with way more subscribers have also very little traffic.
Nice that you got a bit of traffic. Maybe it stays low because people interesting in bicycle touring aren't that much on Reddit, without even mentioning Lemmy?
The camping, ultralight, outdoor communities are pretty much just dead.
Can you please provide links? Should they maybe try to consolidate at first, to get more activity in one place?
Yeah it is a niche activity, sure.
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Camping i think theoretically has some actual users, the solarpunkers seem to mostly repost stuff, not do or plan to do something. I don't think consolidation will do much.
Maybe try to redirect people from [email protected] to [email protected] ? Some subscribers might like to be told there is another active community
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I've been trying to get a bit of life into [email protected] and [email protected] - Rome wasn't sacked in a day though and experience suggests bloody minded persistence is the key.
I also started [email protected] - still early days.
A couple weeks ago I started occasionally posting to [email protected] when the main daily poster said they were taking a week off. That worked out nicely. They were offline for a week again recently and I "filled in the gap" again with daily posting.
I was posting music links daily to [email protected] last August but ran through my main playlist by March. I've been trying to post at least once a week since then.
[email protected] only gets sporadic posting. I'm trying to post once a week.
On [email protected] the regular poster said they were out of content. A couple of us said we'd post, but personally I only have like 4-5 more posts worth of content.
Nice communities!
[email protected] is still doing ok, though not quite at its peak. I don't think new subs are going up by much these days. I have seen comments by a few new names, which is very nice to see. Overall comment levels are about the same. Upvotes seem steady, but not as high as they were around the new year. I do think the year end festivities really boosted things though.
I'm happy to be ahead of [email protected] again though (no offense, I love opossums too, but I want to be #1 wild animal sub!) and I look to be top of the 2nd page of communities overall, so even though I'm not doing quite as well as I perhaps feel I should be doing, I feel I can't complain too much.
I still get a few positive compliments each week and people are sharing their personal stories with owls, which is always nice to hear. As long as I know the content is making people happy, I feel it's worth the work.
I've enjoyed having a few things to share with the [email protected] community. I've gotten some great recommended reading materials from that group in return. Maybe I'll have to look into more collabs and get some cross promotion going.
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