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We need mandatory media literacy classes. (hexbear.net)
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https://www.pcgamer.com/games/fps/casper-van-dien-is-loving-the-starship-troopers-renaissance-but-still-finds-it-mind-boggling-how-some-take-it-at-face-value-my-grandfather-fought-against-the-nazis-and-its-not-a-pro-war-filmeverybody-fing-dies/

"So we're trying to be more serious, the satire comes from the viewers' appreciation of how ridiculous the situation is with the war machine. It's funny because 1930's style propaganda to us in 2024 seems like 'how could people fall for this, this is such a joke.' Trust your government and all that kind of thing. Propaganda only works when you're not aware that it's working… we have to be very strong in our community sentiment to be able to shut down those groups that will use this as a way to like push different agendas. We're not about that, our studio and the game stand for being inclusive."

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hot Take: I think a lot of the really bad "media illiterate" takes you see are totally willful and the person making them is, at least, subconsciously aware it's bullshit, but it's bullshit that reinforces their worldview so they'll spew it nonetheless. As such I don't think mandatory media literacy classes would have any effect on these dorks, you could explain this shit in painstaking detail to them, and then they'd turn around and keep posting their "hot takes".

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yes, also true because the media literacy classes already exist and are called high school English. Still doesn’t matter because the kids will post “the curtains were fucking blue” from the back row

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 months ago (2 children)

We have mandatory literacy classes, that’s English class but some people are like “omg English class is so dumb! Sometimes a guy just writes a dumb story about turning into a big bug that doesn’t mean anything else!!!!!!”

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I had someone in a tabletop RPG group say to me with a straight face that critical analysis is stupid. "Sometimes a story is just a story and there's no other meaning." Like, as if Dracula is just a story about a guy that bites people and that's it. Or Animal Farm is just about talking animals.

I got the impression that she had taken from her literature classes the idea that you have to "find" the "correct" meaning in the text. As in, it's there and you have to solve it like a puzzle, and there's only a small set of correct answers. That's kind of a fundamental misunderstanding of how it all works. You have the text, and any meaning you can explain and defend is there. Many popular texts already have a lot of stuff already written about it, but that doesn't mean those are the only possible answers. You can easily write an essay that examines Dracula through a feminist lens.

She really just seemed kind of sad and incurious overall. I think about this a lot. I think a lot of people are like her.

I don't really know how to fix this. Probably spending a lot more money on education would help.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

I agree that even if an author claims there is no meaning in a story they wrote, and even if the story itself seems vapid, meaning can indeed be pulled out, or at the very least the story can serve as a data point in a meta analysis of cultural trends of the time, etc....while I agree with this, a ton of people really do just absorb stories at face value cause it's interesting to exist somewhere else for a bit or vicariously experience emotions through characters or just enjoy a series of thrilling events.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

The way to fix this is by having people read. Not just like… “you, sit down and read the brothers karamazov” because it can be anything other than harboring disdain for the very act of reading itself.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So you're saying we need re-education

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If we just get education right you don’t even have to worry about doing it again

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago

For the longest time I totally misjudged van Dien. I saw that he was always thrilled to reprise the Rico character in whatever silly spinoffs and thought he was really in to it. I was very happy to find out I'd been totally wrong and unfair to the man.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wish I liked Starship Troopers more than I actually do, because the idea is great but the execution could have been a lot better. and I like a lot of Verhoeven's movies

this Casper guy is way cooler than I would have guessed for a guy who looks like he belongs on a nazi propaganda poster - he was very well-cast in that film

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

this Casper guy is way cooler than I would have guessed for a guy who looks like he belongs on a nazi propaganda poster

The virgin Starship Troopers literal interpreter versus the Chad Starship Troopers is a satire understander.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Tarantino things it was groundbreaking to make a movie about giant bugs, SO MANY FEET 👄

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

"Ah, the game is afoot!" -- Phrases you never want to hear coming from Quentin Tarantino

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have been saying for years that citationa needed should be required as part of high school curriculum.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Wut

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

It's a podcast about media and the things media does to trick you.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

I met Casper van Dien about 10 years ago at a convention. I paid to get DVDs signed but I was last in line so we talked a bit longer than usual. I offhandedly mentioned how I'm surprised some people don't understand SST is a parody and he agreed and said that he hears really ridiculous shit from people sometimes.

Good dude. I'm glad he enjoys the role he's most known for.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

my dad told me that westerners don't understand Starship troopers years ago but I didn't think he was this right

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Starship Troopers 2: Hero of the Federation

Watch it, its a lot more on the nose with its criticisms than the first movie.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Propaganda only works when you're not aware that it's working

It often works even when you are aware of it, but it reinforces your biases or makes apologetics for your privileged position in society.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

we need prision time for creators of misinformation*

here fixed it, dealing with the root cause and all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Says the person who posts a screenshot of a headline ffs

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Text only posts tend to get less engagement. As to whether it’s good or bad to change posting habits around that… no clue

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Oh, posting an image in addition to the article text is good and fine. Just don't post a screenshot of the headline.