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I know this might be a couple months old, but I didn't know we already passed 4%.

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[-] [email protected] 79 points 1 week ago

I don't think Microsoft (or Apple) want people to have personal computers anymore in the way that PCs have historically existed. That is to say, they don't want your computer capable of running arbitrary code of your choosing. They don't want your computer to have the potential to do everything, to run everything, to make anything.

They want to control and lock down all aspects of your machine and what it can do, retain ownership of hardware via software licenses, and monetize every click and keystroke.

Microsoft doesn't want you to have a functional computer anymore, they want you to have a dummy terminal that runs Office 365 and Copilot.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

I don't know that I agree. I think they do. However:

  • Apple only wants you to be able to do those things if you're buying the software through their store. Honestly I'm shocked they still allow you to "sideload" software on MacOS. They can be very unpredictable sometimes. And;

  • MS only wants you to be able to do those things if you're looking at their ads and they're monetizing your data.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

You'll own nothing and you'll be happy - Ida Auken

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

They want PCs that work like smartphones, with apps completely self contained and unmodifiable, where the OS is a black box that no one but them can see in to.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Smartphones are actually a good window into what computers in general would have been like had the IBM bios not been reverse engineered and survived a bunch of legal challenges.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

I think if it was up to them, and latency was low enough, they probably would have pushed some kind of "fully remote convertible laptop" where they literally own everything you do in a cloud, I don't even want to search if this is a thing that exist already

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[-] [email protected] 71 points 1 week ago

I've had LMDE on a USB stick for a few months now, waiting for the right time to boot it up on my wife's PC, and she finally agreed to try it tonight. Cross your fingers, boys; we may soon have another convert.

[-] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago

If she doesn't like it, find a new wife!

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

/r/relationship_advice is leaking.

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[-] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago

How much of this is decline at the expense of Windows 11, due to Steam lowering barriers to entry, fatigue with Windows' hard selling, and/or extending the useful like of hardware that W11 abandoned.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago

Copilot / Recall was the last straw for me. My only relationship with Microsoft for the last 10 years has been, "how much more of Microsoft's sh*t am I willing to put up with?"

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

I 100% put money on the fact that linuxes surge in popularity and usability is 100% because Valve, a multi-billion dollar company, stepped in and started dragging it forward in ways that the fractuous nature of the community never could.

Windows 11 being a spytastic invasive dogpile was just extra fuel on the fire.

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[-] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago

First off, I DO NOT count ChromeOS, but whatever.

Secondly, when is 18% of anything “dominant”??? The fuck? Arstechnica back up off the pipe.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

They probably mean of Linux flavored ps coverage.

(I'm aware Mac is very different than Linux, but it is more closely grouped with Linux than Windows)

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[-] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago

You're welcome guys. I installed Linux on an iMac yesterday. It was all me.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

I tried to do the same but mine has an Nvidia GPU :(

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Yes those can be a pain. Might be worth to give it a try though before ruling it out entirely. I did manage to get my old (non-mac) laptop working that had the combined intel and nvidia gpus that were a pain.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

I did try. It was awful LOL. Also I couldn't use my second monitor. This was with a distro that was supposed to support Nvidia. But if you know of one that specifically supports the 780M, I'm all ears.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

Played csgo last night and this guy brought up he was playing on Linux Mint. Lfg, I was so happy.

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

It's cool and all, but I'm surprised it's not 10% at this point. Microsoft is shitting in their customers mouth and Apple is a luxury brand at this point.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

Because every computer bought by the average human being, has Windows on it.

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

4% is high considering there are probably more corporate desktops tham personal ones

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

For desktop or everything else. Because if its:

Web Servers, Supercomputers, Android Smartphones, Smart TVs, Network Routers, Network Switches, Embedded Devices, IoT Devices, NAS (Network-Attached Storage) Devices, Raspberry Pi, Smartwatches, Home Automation Devices, Google Chromebooks, Set-top Boxes, Drones, Digital Signage Devices, 3D Printers, Medical Devices, ATM Machines, Point of Sale (POS) Devices, Digital Cameras, Gaming Consoles, Virtual Private Servers (VPS), Automotive Infotainment Devices, Mainframes, Telecommunications Equipment, Scientific Research Equipment, Security Devices, Cloud Servers, Network Firewalls, Storage Area Networks (SAN), Enterprise Resource Planning (ERP) Devices, Customer Relationship Management (CRM) Devices, Big Data Analytics Devices, Machine Learning Devices, Artificial Intelligence Devices, Financial Trading Devices, Air Traffic Control Devices, Spacecraft Control Devices, Weather Forecasting Devices, Broadcast Automation Devices, Railway Signaling Devices, Electric Grid Control Devices, Smart Meters, E-Readers, Electric Vehicle (EV) Charging Stations, Robotics Devices

then Linux (or some kind of *Nix system) is probably what is running it. The only market share I dont see is desktop.

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Linux founder Linus Torvalds, for example, has suggested that a lack of a standardized desktop that goes across all Linux distros has held back Linux adoption on desktop.

Yeah. Well, in on Linux in large part because of the diversity, choice, and options. If I wanted a monolithic, incestuous lock-in culture, I'd be on Windows, or a Mac.

Linux may have been simply making an observation, not a judgment, but fuck monocultures.

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Just a reminder to take the data in that site with a grain of salt. I used to share them a lot, but then decided to read more about their methodology, and turns out it's mostly a black box, so they may be subject to several kinds of biases, and we can't even know. For example, we don't know which sites use their analytics and if there's a geographical bias. We also don't know how their scripts work and how the data is collected from devices. It would be nice if we had more sources of marketshare data to compare

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

For sure, I wish they gave us more data. The trend seems to be going up so that's nice.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Glad for Linux going up, but the numbers should really come from Windows more than from MacOS.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes, this was big news all over Lemmy when it happened.

Thanks for bringing it up though! Not everyone might have known that.

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Three cheers for King Torvalds and Lord Gaben!

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

How much of this is regular people just not buying new computers anymore?

A lot of households that used to have had a laptop for each person have replaced those devices with phones and tablets. They weren't using Linux, so by removing them Linux market share would go up even if it hasn't actually grown.

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Music and graphic art software is the only advantage I can find for MacOS over Linux at this point. I love the Apple silicon but I don't see that being a long term advantage.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Stability and UI/UX are still lightyears ahead in Mac, and to some extent Windows. Don't get me wrong, they suck for lots of reasons, but I think Linux has a lot of catching up to do to be as usable as Mac/Windows for the ordinary user.

I think standardizing package formats, and more mature desktop managers and proprietary drivers will go a long way to fixing that though.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

People find Windows easier to use because they are used to the quirks. Of course you shouldn't let a beginner try Arch, but there are plenty of beginner friendly distros. The complications often come from installing Linux in the first place but the average user will have just as much trouble installing Windows.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

I think most users dont install windows period. It just comes with the computer. And if it breaks, they get a new one. Thats it.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

Yes, that's my point. If people could buy Linux PCs at Best Buy or Walmart, most of them would get on with it just fine.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

What is your definition of stability lol

Windows crashes are standard... Linux are pretty rare. At least in my exp

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

"dominance"... You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

What happened in Nov 2023?

OSX and Windows move in opposite directions at the same time? Seems a little weird.

Anti Commercial-AI license

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Since Unknown matches Windows only inverted some windows update was probably unclassified for that time period.

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