Shinji, from Evangelion.
He's 14. His mum is dead. His dad is a piece of shit and a manipulative bastard, who sees him as nothing but a pawn. "Emotionally traumatised" doesn't even start to describe him. He's pressured to pilot a mecha and if he fucks things up people will die, he knows that they will die, and that it'll be his fault.
And yet people expect him to be assertive or to not have meltdowns? Come the fucking on.
Cool story, now get in the fucking robot.
... that was created using your mother's soul!
Or some shit. Lol
Imagine if nerv had invested some of its money in the mental health of its employees. I like to think many issues could have been solved by hiring a few therapists.
I really thought the idea was, "You like mecha? You like kids piloting mecha? This is how it'd go down." I loved it so much. Shinji's a broken, abused shell child. He lives with a broken human who drowns her sorrows in drink. His father is just evil. He'd have to be to let his kid pilot the mecha.
The only real father figure we ever see for shinji is a spy. Who gets killed. He's in love with a girl that hates him. Because he's broken. But he has no one else. Except those friends at school who I think they take away. Don't remember. And that angel who he has to kill or something. Damn, it's been like 25 years. I have no idea what happened. But in my memory it's terrible. Wonderful stuff.
Wesley Crusher. I always liked him
I am only a few years younger than Wesley was in TNG. He was someone with whom I could identify. I never got the Wesley hate, and if it was not for the internet I would not know there was any.
Jar Jar Binks. He's my favorite Sith
My personal theory is that jar jar is not a sith but rather a domestic terrorist that is really good at making it look like an accident
Willie in Temple of Doom. So what if she wasn’t cut out for the big adventure! She liked her life in Shanghai- dresses, performing, champagne, and nightlife. She didn’t ask for any of what happened next!
Skyler White. I didn't even know that she was hated quite a lot. I always thought she is actually the most sane person given the situation she's in.
She is hated because she is acting sanely in this situation and is constantly trying to stop Walter's insanity.
Same, and I suspect that not many people ever did hate Skylar... But the narrative makes for good content, so the few that did hate on Skylar got portrayed as the majority.
IIRC, though, Anna Gunn mentioned having a lot of negative interactions with the audience conflating her with her character... So who knows.
She's hated because Walt turned everyone against her - including the viewer, it seems
Basically every character who's worst sin is just being kinda annoying
It makes no sense to me how an annoying person can catch so much more vitriol than a genuinely malicious person.
Like "sure he murders puppies as a casual past time, but at least he isn't a bother about it!"
I guess in a show the annoyance they cause to you is real but the puppies killed are fiction
I don’t hate characters for being evil in fiction. Evil characters can be super entertaining. The game of thrones books really captured this potential IMO. A character being annoying to the reader/viewer directly impedes with you enjoying the show.
I was listening to a football podcast (they go off topic in the offseason because there isn't a lot to talk about), and they had a whole rant about how Pam Beasley is a monster.
Because she was friends with Jim while dating Roy. (Yeah him having feelings for her wasn't exactly a shocker, but it's different when it's you. And she shut him down clearly when he actually made a move.)
Because she did the art school thing, I guess?
Because she was sad when Jim was dating Karen. (She did genuinely try to be her friend despite that, and went to cry in a corner alone.)
And because there was tension when Jim did Athlead. (Which if you actually watch, was him biting her head off when she messed up with a video of a recital, and him instigating a couple other times, presumably because of the stress of the situation, while she was being run ragged as almost a single mother at home.)
And because apparently chasing your dreams going to New York to go to art school while in a relationship is the same as doing it when you're actually married and have kids. But she didn't bend over backward enough to support him I guess?
It's just really weird to me, and he's not the only one with that weird twist on the character. (No she's not perfect. Sitcoms are all characters who are kind of monsters. But her as the bad guy doesn't make sense.)
Yeah. I also find the relationship has a lot more dysfunction on Jim's part than fans want to admit. Jim wouldn't cheat on Pam, but Jim makes several life changing decisions without Pam and gets angry if Pam doesn't go along with them.
To be fair, I don't think he's actually a bad dude either. Again, flawed, but reasonably well intentioned.
The "worst" thing they did was definitely developing feelings while she's engaged to Roy, but most of that was the nature of working in close proximity. It's inherently different than sneaking around to spend "platonic" time together for a bunch of hours by choice. He had feelings, but mostly didn't cross the line. I don't think he's a terrible person for laying his feelings on the line when she's engaged to someone he doesn't like either. Actually married is the line where it moves to completely not OK.
But yeah, the whole end thing really wasn't anyone being awful. He unilaterally made some decisions that should have been a partnership, and he was wrong to put that much stress on her without talking to her and hearing her. Because they had kids, primarily. But he did recognize that and came back and made the commitment to their family. Then, once she had time to actually breathe again, she was ready to take the leap with him.
That was longer than I meant it to be again lol. But I was surprised to hear the take (and that it was more popular than I'd guess) because it genuinely never occurred to me. She was in pretty deep and he was lashing out from the stress of the situation before she even vocalized her problems with it. (At least from what we see.)
Thanos; I can understand his reasoning, his solution doesn't favor anyone either and seemed painless.
Except for his solution is basically, "Let's put the population back a whole 40 years or so, while massively disrupting society and the economy and being guaranteed to traumatize virtually everyone remaining. That will fix everything!" The only person who could think that was at all reasonable would have to have a grade school understanding of how the world works and no interpersonal connections, or what they mean to most people.
And then he destroys the stones, so it's not he planned for the snap to be the first of an every-few-decades population culling. This dork actually thought he had a permanent fix and threw away his tools in confidence that it was.
Painless? Even accepting that emotional pain doesn't count (which I don't agree with) 50% of every person involved in operating a piece of dangerous machinery just suddenly disappearing absolutely caused widespread injury and death among those left behind.
I thought the reasoning portrayed in the movies made a lot less sense than the reasoning in the comics.
If his goal is to eliminate poverty and balance the resources vs consumption, why not double the resources rather than destabilize the entire universe in the process of halving the consumption of resources?
A shortsighted and foolish plan at least makes sense when it's in the pursuit of romance.
Thanos' reasoning is idiotic.
People are a resource. If you eliminated half the people, not only have you wasted all resources that went into those people, but you've wasted everything those people could produce. Minus half of agricultural workers would probably mean way less than half production. The post-snap world would be a place of austerity and starvation. You could recover sure, but it'd be time for another snap.
On the surface I understand, but as you dig deeper the logistics don’t make a lot of since with the “indiscriminate” part. Let’s say you had two warring factions of almost equal power. How would the snap know to take an equal amount so that there isn’t a massive power shift which could lead to a much more negative outcome. What if there was a single, very influencial person that got snapped. Things like that. His goal was to alieviate suffering but there are so many better ways he could have approached it. It’s possible I’d need to dive into the backstory more to determine what made him choose that specific action.
In the 90s there was this purple dinosaur from a children’s TV show that everyone seemed to hate. I don’t know anything about him or why we were supposed to hate him. To know anything about him you would have to have watched a show for 3 year olds, so if you did that then you deserve to be annoyed by it. Right?
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