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I love Pokémon, it's my special interest, I've been playing since Gen 1 and have pretty extensive knowledge about the Pokémon world.

However since becoming a communist I've realized that a lot of things are missing from the world, including basic functions on how everything works. Just the presence of police implies there are laws that have to be enforced, which in turn implies people write those laws, etc. We know that there was an industrial revolution, which led to capitalism, being the economic system in all Pokémon regions, meaning all of the contradictions that come with it. There was a war that took place, as alluded to by Lt. Surge, who might actually be from Unova.

In the manga there's the Pokémon Association (PA), a legislative body that determines the laws involving Pokémon, similar to Congress here in the U.S., with each region apparently having its own PA.

In the anime they have the Pokémon Inspection Agency (PIA) that inspects Gyms to see if they're up to par.

They don't explicitly talk about politics and political views (obviously because the series is marketed to kids) but I think exploring these mechanisms could be really interesting, if not for the fact that Pokémon adds another layer to politics because they're creatures with a material effect on the world.

Some people might be more left leaning when it comes to economics and social issues, but might be more right leaning when it comes to trainer regulations.

I'm curious to know what other people think, I'm actually writing a story that explores some of these themes so I'd love to get some ideas!

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Pokemon world is so empty of non-battle things that it's hard to talk politics at all. I think the game that had the most substance was Legends Arceus with its parallels to Japanese colonization, but even then it was all subtext.

Besides that, there's an international police with Looker and I think a PokeBall monopoly based in Kalos. Also there was that Pokemon world war that took place 3,000 years ago (I forgot what it was about though)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Pokemon world is so empty of non-battle things that it's hard to talk politics at all.

Really? There are people who love Pokémon so much they might want to restrict or ban battling, if they all came together couldn't they make a political party? What about trainers who don't want the government interfering in how they train Pokémon? What about regulations that might be necessary to improve the lives of Trainers and Pokémon alike?

There's actually climate change affecting Pokémon, a consequence of the industrial revolution.

Idk, I think there's a lot to talk about. Maybe it's just me that thinks about this kinda stuff.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I meant institutional stuff, there's usually not much more than the gyms and bad guys. I don't think there ever has been a government in a Pokemon game besides, arguably, the champions and gym leaders.

Regarding climate change, aren't all the pollution Pokemon a direct result of human wastefulness? I mean the Muk, Weezing, and Garbodor lines + their variants. There's also trash cloak Burmy and Wormadam. Though idk if these Pokemon are meant to be a critique because they're treated the same as any other Pokemon, really.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yes I also meant institutional things...that's why I mentioned police, with police there are laws, where there are laws people have to write them, and so on...these things aren't explicit like I said, they're implied..

Yes, the pollution Pokémon are result of industrial waste, and now they rely on the same waste that caused them...isn't that dialectical?

I'm also pulling my information from the manga, which also provides a better idea of how the games would look in real life.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

aside from the very ham-fisted stuff in B/W/B2/W2, the closest thing to a political narrative (certainly not communist, but fairly interesting) in Pokémon I've seen is a ROM hack called Rocket Edition

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've played it, it's really good in terms of offering some explanations to some of the narrative that isn't explained in the original games, and is actually what kinda inspired me to write my own story since in that game the Champion is kinda like the head of state.

Also I'm not talking about any political narratives in the games, I'm talking about what political positions people might hold in the Pokémon world itself, what could be considered left or right, since Pokémon add a completely different layer to politics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

any serious political story would need to disregard some things from the games (the minuscule "cities", the NPCs who stay in the same area forever, etc.) and then explain how 10-year-old children can safely roam around holding animal fights, whether Pokémon are sentient (and why Pokémon can be stored as data, although you could probably discard that plot point), etc.

in terms of political alignment, considering there doesn't seem to be much work being done by humans, left-wing movements would likely be focused on the material conditions and rights of Pokémon

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i don't like the whole "red is a robot" theory, it's stupid in all honesty

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There isn't even any evidence pointing to it lol your character is the classic silent protagonist 🤷🏿‍♂️ he has an actual personality in the manga

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Setting aside the political system in the fictional setting of Pokemon, its theme did have universal government regulations of Pokemon battles, animal violence, reduction of Indigenous groups into restrictive stereotypes, commodification of nature in the form of pokemons, and monopoly of the Pokemon battle system. The idea that a society can transform nature and Indigenous people into systematic tools of violent entertainment without opposition is highly immoral and disrespectful in reality. That is why I like to watch parody of Pokemon that expose the irrationality and cruelty of the Pokemon setting.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except it's known in the Pokémon world that they aren't just "animals fighting"; they aren't even animals, considering there are actual animals like rodents, birds and fish in the Pokémon world. They do have intelligence since they can understand humans, and will actually not listen to you if you mistreat them, or if they don't respect you they won't even be caught.

The idea that a society can transform nature and Indigenous people into systematic tools of violent entertainment without opposition is highly immoral and disrespectful in reality.

What are you even talking about?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

"considering there are actual animals"

although nintendo might have shown real animals in early gens, nintendo retconned that out in later gens and it's no longer considered canon

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Have you looked into the modding scene much? I think there's a lot of fan content that explores different aspects of the world. Though I can't say I've played much of them myself.