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I hope we get better content. I'm really tired of all the posts on the frontpage being meta. Like i had to scroll to find anything about the student loan news. I go to reddit and boom I get actual content still.
.. i want conversations about things that aren't lemmy or reddit. .. memes are cool but man most of the frontpage that isn't meta is memes. .. Fingers crossed it gets better soon.
I agree... but this is probably the last big reddit thing for a while, so I think the reddit and lemmy stuff will die down from now
I joined Lemmy during the blackout. Obviously it was crazy for a few days, but the last week and a half has been news, memes, and real conversations. Really enjoying it here so far!
I'm posting often in foodporn and my little communities.
The “hot” front page STILL has posts from days ago.
I give it 3 days before people cave and go back. People will always find a way to get their dopamine fix. If lemmy doesn’t have what they want, suffering through the shitty Reddit app will be a cakewalk compared to giving up the habit altogether
Man what a bummer. Just deleted my 13 year old account.
I've now been tricked twice into breaking my Reddit boycott just to check and see if Infinity still works or not, and it still does.
Maybe Infinity just has enough fewer users than something like Apollo that Infinity hasn't reached the request limit to where it's been shut off yet.
(I don't actually mean I was tricked. ;) )
Infinity probably managed to cut a deal with Reddit like the Narwhal dev did. Meaning that while they're working on their new subscription-only price model, they still have access to the API for free.
To my knowledge, they're the only two apps that will try to work with the new API policy.
It's pretty ridiculous.
Currently you can type libreddit.hu/r/ in front of any subreddit and avoid Reddit directly, not sure what's happening to that domain with the changes.
I meant that I loaded up Infinity specifically to check and see if Infinity still worked or not. Not to access any particular Reddit content. But Infinity still worked for me after I first saw this thread.
Edit: Ah, and I just realized I might have misunderstood you, not the other way around. Sorry about that.
iirc infinity will stop working on 7/1 as well. possibly switching to a subscription model with price tbd
I'm here because baconreader died. Hi everyone!
Welcome!
Got the message on BR about an hour ago.
I had been a Baconreader Premium user for 10 years, kinda sad to see it go.
Same, definitely a bummer. The official reddit app is so awful. Lemmy it is...
20 million a year? That’s wild, shame to see apps start to fall.
Right?! And then when being asked if they could maybe charge $10 million (or give people 6 months to figure things out), they just said no. I can't remember another company that blatantly cut off all partner relationships like that.
I think the reasoning is that Reddit didn't realize these *were *partner relationships. They thought these apps were just taking and not actually helping.
Reddit didn’t even just say no, but framed the $10m comment as Christian threatening Reddit 🔪
This is so short sighted by the Reddit C suite. It makes literally no sense for them to kill these apps when every argument they made for killing them was in bad faith.
I deleted my Reddit account.
Not going back.
But it’s sad…
I noticed ReddPlanet was down today. Just checked it out of curiosity. Haven’t been on Reddit in a few weeks.
Rip sync. You were the best.
Looking forward to the Lemmy version
I wonder if this will have any effect on Reddit's metrics? The blackout had almost no effect, and certainly no lasting effect. But this might.
Not that I care, though. Lemmy is active enough nowadays, and I'm pretty sure it's going to continue growing now.
Reddit's metrics are ad sales. And I think the impact here is going to be slower, and take longer.
Twitter's fall has been faster because existing competitors like Facebook and Instagram can take some of their users, Mastadon takes another chunk, and Substack launched their Twitter clone Notes already. Not to mention Bluesky's expanding public beta. If you liked Twitter and want that experience somewhere else, you've got good options.
Reddit has no real competitor. There's stuff like Hacker News, but their community is small and extremely toxic. Nothing else comes close. Until there's a true Reddit competitor, their demise will be slow and could be easily turned around.
You and I are of course on Lemmy. But lets be real, Lemmy isn't a competitor to reddit. As I write this comment there are 3 users online in this community. And given how there's already a huge amount of in-fighting and defederating amoung different Lemmy instances, this will never really take off.
Regular people don't want to sign up for a service and only to have it suddenly become much less useful overnight because they failed some purity test they didn't even know they were taking.
I'm mainly talking about metrics with more immediate impact, such as new posts and comments: https://blackout.photon-reddit.com/
I know this won't impact Reddit's business line immediately, but it will eventually, and I'd be surprised if they weren't paying attention.
Re: competition, I agree Lemmy isn't going to absorb all of Reddit right away. But it might make a dent. Also, some Redditors might abandon Reddit in favor of other social networks, or even give up on this activity altogether.
There’s stuff like Hacker News, but their community is small and extremely toxic.
WTF? HN is one of the best communities. What exactly is "toxic" about it?
WTF? HN is one of the best communities. What exactly is “toxic” about it?
Their years long harrasment campaign against one of the main developers on OpenGL because she's trans, and the project lead for AsahiLinux because he stood up for her come to mind. I'm interested in graphics stacks (because I'm bad at it myself) and you basically can't discuss OpenGL there because they hate Alyssa Rosenzweig for existing.
There's a reason why lots of people block them entirely and that HN doesn't respect those blocks basically tells you all you need to know.
Re: competition, I agree Lemmy isn’t going to absorb all of Reddit right away. But it might make a dent.
This won't happen. As soon as any one instance of Lemmy grows other instances will just defederate it (like so many Mastodon instances wanted to do with mastodon.social) and kill whatever growth there is.
I don't mind that Lemmy will remain small. It's fine by me, but anyone expecting Reddit to ever notice Lemmy is kidding themselves.
Their years long harrasment campaign against one of the main developers on OpenGL because she’s trans, and the project lead for AsahiLinux because he stood up for her come to mind
I think you're confusing a few users with the community as a whole. I've read a lot of Asahi linux threads and only saw positive comments. I'm also very surprised to see accusations against Dang. He seems to be a very nice and balanced individual. Would you have any links to these attacks on HN that were not moderated?
There's a saying here in Germany that roughly goes "If you're at a dinner with 1 Nazi and 9 people who say nothing, that's a dinner with 10 Nazis". That's how it is with HN. They can't hide behind "just some commenters" when they've got years long harrasment campaigns and then update HN's code in order to get arround Hector's attempts to stem the tide.
The comments are all gone now. But as Hector points out, it takes weeks or months for the moderators to actually do anything. In my opinion they don't get credit for removing these comments once the threads are stale.
And then when people try to limit HN traffic to their site and stop the harrasment campaign, Dang updates HN to order to circumvent it.
The Asahi team got a massive amount of harassment from HN, it took HN weeks to remove any comments, months to remove them all, but they were very keen on getting around Hector's HN block.
Boost is currently up, but they announced they'd be shutting down by tomorrow anyways. At least Lemmy / Kbin seem to be decent replacements so far. Here's hoping they continue to fill with lots of new interesting discussions and then I'll be done with Reddit for good.
Been a redditor since 2010, RiF user from about 2015 on, then Apollo user since 2020. There’s a few work related subs I’ll still visit occasionally on a web browser (using old.reddit of course) but other than that I’m officially done.
I'm here from using Joey for Reddit. I'm surprised it seems like it wasn't as popular as the other third party apps. It was great for me
I was still using Slide, I was hoping it was under the radar enough that it would squeak by but nope. Goodbye Reddit. I was user 4163 16 years ago, and now it's time to get the fediverse up and going.
Fuck Reddit. Immediately deleted my account and came here
My Relay app still seems to be working
A few apps that have a smaller amount of users have been granted a delay in which they can set up a subscription scheme.
We don't know yet what the subscription cost is going to be and whether the whole thing will be sustainable. It's not clear to me for example what will happen if the users/traffic for these apps eventually rises (which is bound to happen if they're the only ones left standing). Or why a deal couldn't be reached with the large apps too.
Not to mention the whole sour taste, a couple months ago if Reddit had come out and said "we're putting all 'power user' stuff behind a paywall, pay a sub directly to us to help us out" I would've seriously considered it. Now, not so much.
I’m here from Apollo. A very sad day but I look forward to what this may become.
Check out wefwef.app. It will feel familiar.
Memmy for iOS currently being reviewed by Apple, should hit the App Store in a day or two. You can download the Test Flight now if you don’t want to wait.
Inspired by Apollo - and works amazingly with Lemmy. I’m using now.
Some other apps are out there in beta and being approved now. Mlem, Liftoff… it’s a good time to switch.
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