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[–] [email protected] 218 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Isn't claiming territory that doesn't belong to you as yours the definition of imperialism?

[–] [email protected] 97 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They get around this by using a version of Lenin's definition of imperialism. Lenin characterised imperialism as, in very simple terms, the way that powerful capitalist countries exploit poorer countries (or straight up colonies, especially considering the time in which Lenin was writing). Of course they use a version of this that specifically defines it as just literally anything the countries they don't like do, leading to ProleWiki insisting that Russia is not imperialist but Liechtenstein is

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Similarly to how 'reactionary' just means 'bad' to these people. For the record a 'reactionary' is somebody who wants to restore a previous status quo. It's not inherently good or bad.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It all starts with a flag.

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[–] [email protected] 135 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (10 children)

By this logic, Australia, America, India and a ton of other countries are still part of England.

[–] [email protected] 98 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"No, not like that!" - tankies

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Wait till Portugal and Spain get hold of this.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Most of England belongs to Rome!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

Except for that northern bit across the wall.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 2 months ago (4 children)

And Skyrim belongs to the Nords!

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Calling it North Korea and not the Democratic People's Republic of Korea?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Pretty sure you mean “Best Korea”

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 months ago (3 children)
  • USA belongs to Great Britain
  • England and France belongs to the Roman empire
  • Poland belongs to Prussia
[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (8 children)

England belongs to roman empire too.

Oh wait, does that mean US belongs to the roman empire all along?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No countries are real. Everything belongs to everyone because our ancestors were there first.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago (10 children)

The US belongs to the UK. But you can keep the Bible belt, we don't want that bit.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago (2 children)

There's no possible way this isn't bait.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wish to return to the time where I could have agreed with you

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 months ago

if you don't support imperialism, you're supporting imperialism

[–] Honytawk 43 points 2 months ago (2 children)

But Russia officially belongs to Mongolia

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[–] AShadyRaven 40 points 2 months ago (8 children)

My favorite brand of rage is the kind i feel when someone says a bunch of evil things and then follows it with "if you disagree, youre the evil one"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (6 children)

These countries that want to be free and independent should be owned by another country that wants to own them and if you disagree you support imperialism... mind-boggling

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago (23 children)

It's a neat little trick how fascists say things that are the exact opposite of objective reality, and don't see the irony.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

It's part of the playbook. That's his you eliminate the possibility of a good criticism, everything becomes spiderman meme

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Isn't people 'belonging' someone else a definition of slavery?

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

TIL there are "'correct" .ml communities.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago

Well there sure as hell are "incorrect" ones, apparently.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago

[email protected] and other open source projects are decent

As always, [email protected] and [email protected] are here as alternatives

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

FWIW, the full list of disputed territories is much longer than you think. Basically, every map in existence is also picking sides whether they know it or not; a realization I find chilling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_territorial_disputes

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Within Russia, "imperialism" means "opposition of Russian imperialism", and "fascism" is just used as "opposition of not supporting the Russian government".

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Louisiana (Kansas, Missouri, Dakotas, Minnesota) belongs to France! 🇫🇷

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago

POV: you wrote anything anywhere and you don't have hexabear/lemmygrad/lemmyml blocked.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago

Imagine looking at millions of people living in the relatively prosperous democracy of South Korea and believing that all these people belong as chattel slaves of a monarch who starves his people and throws entire families into concentration camps to die if one member dares to speak out. Every regime supported here is a fascist dictator.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Most Communists I know of are very much pro-Rojava on account of their attempts to build a socialistic society.

Seems like a bait tweet to me.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago

"If you don't support the rights of these imperialistic fascist regimes to do imperialistic and fascist things then you are an imperialist and a fascist."

Yeah okay. Sure.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Did they provide any justification for the claim? Or is it just the usual "because I said so"?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (19 children)
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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago

huh? isnt china the top imperialist in the list? who gained more land in the last decade? pfff lemmygrads are a special kind of stupid.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

There are only wrong .ml communities

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I can’t believe they would grandstand like that and leave out “America belongs to the natives”. Pretty weird.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (3 children)

is this the hexbear manifestó

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do they even know what "imperialism" means?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

Their definition of imperialism is the USA, and only the USA.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (11 children)

Uh...Russia, China and North Korea are all fascist dictatorships. Tankies wouldn't be nearly as annoying if they had a fucking clue what they were taking about.

[–] Honytawk 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Know the most annoying part?

All these LGBTQ+ tankies from Hexbear would literally be killed in those countries for supporting LGBTQ+. And the cops will say that they deserve it.

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