Reform UK being a bunch of Nazis isn't surprising at all
This is very misleading as it excludes "don't know" results. That fact is the overall majority responded "don't know".
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Yeah, the original poll shows that only around half would choose communism, and I'd wager if push came to shove the undecided would side with fascism in the end.
https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/50352-communism-vs-fascism-which-would-britons-choose
"Undecided" in situations like this just means "temporarily embarrassed fascist."
Indeed.
The non-party principle means indifference to the struggle of parties. But this indifference is not equivalent to neutrality, to abstention from the struggle, for in the class struggle there can be no neutrals; in capitalist society, it is impossible to “abstain” from taking part in the exchange of commodities or labour-power. And exchange inevitably gives rise to economic and then to political struggle. Hence, in practice, indifference to the struggle does not at all mean standing aloof from the struggle, abstaining from it, or being neutral. Indifference is tacit support of the strong, of those who rule
V. I. Lenin
exactly, they're still unsure whether it's ok to say what they really think publicly
Always do
Well I guess if the Times can publish misleading polls all the time, why not Novara
Maybe it's my cynicism regarding whites acting up, but I have my immense doubts.
Yeah like how they did elected fascists, repeatedly.
Because they don't CALL themselves fascists. Using that word is an obvious bad thing and most people aren't going to support it. So they don't call themselves that. Even fucking Hitler was smart enough to co-opt naming that they knew people supported. The National SOCIALIST party.
The call themselves moderates, conservatives, liberals, etc. And because of that, people are fine with them coming in and sending bombs to genocide other nations, making speeches where immigrants are labeled as animals, making policies to jail poor people, etc. etc.
I made this comment elsewhere here but, it's not going to ever be "choose between communism and fascism." It's going to be a spectrum of people that mostly do nother while the actual fascists, that don't call themselves fascists, start killing communists, that DO call themselves communists. And most people will be ok with it for the same reasons they have always been ok with it. "Well they are extremists and should have been more reasonable." "Well I'm not a communist so I will be ok." ...
Yeah
Go on, do America now. Should be interesting.
Oops all Nazis
They are increasingly becoming the only two options.
In my country, the options are becoming "fascist" vs "not so fascist" lol
Reform UK being a bunch of Nazis isn't surprising at all
Reform pretending that any of them would vote for communism is. Are they actually that unaware of the party they joined?
The thing is, it's not going to be "communism vs fascism" because those in power know people don't like that word "fascist." Change this to communism vs capitalism and see how those views change. What it will be is actual fascists, not calling themselves fascists, attacking actual communists, that DO call themselves communists. And people will mostly just let it happen because all those "support communism" people are mostly a mix of what? Liberals, Soc Dems, Dem Socs, moderates, etc, etc.
They will sit by and do nothing cause they will think "well the communists are being too extreme. We should compromise. The government isn't actual fascism or anything. I mean, I'M not a communist." Ect. Ect.
I'm not trying to be pessimistic. I'm just being logical and not letting myself get into some false sense that the UK is someone on the cusp of going communist.
Reform more Nazi than Conservative lol
W
They are increasingly becoming the only two options.
How is Labour to the right of the Lib Dems?? (Rhetorical question, I know. Fuck Starmer.)
On this chart, Labour is to the left of Lib Dems, 93% to 90%. They are to the right of Greens, who have 96%.
Oh, your'e right. I can't read.
Watch The Kavernacle video about the UK elections
Reform into fascism
Nice.