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[–] [email protected] 84 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I've read The Guardian article about the situation, and what stuck out to me was this:

The US president, Joe Biden, said he was aware of Israel’s plans to launch an operation into Lebanon as he urged against such a move. “I’m more aware than you might know and I’m comfortable with them stopping,” he told reporters at the White House. “We should have a ceasefire now.”

Thank you Biden, just wag your finger and keep feeling "comfortable with them stopping", that is ought to give you some moral victory points which is all that matters (and not thousands of civilians being killed by Israel that's funded by US).

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

the worst part is that Biden saying that is like the most you'll ever hear any american politician say. Thats "Radical" to them. "Hey maybe don't invade lebanon" "omg are you an antisemite?"

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

i had to listen to an absolutely unhinged dude yesterday, who thinks biden/kamala not saying "KILL THEM ALL KILL KILL KILL GO BIBI GO KILL" means they're going to "betray" israel...

it was bad.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Imagine being either more bloodthirsty or more incompetent (or both) that Reagan.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago
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[–] Arelin 131 points 3 days ago (6 children)

"Is Lebanon part of Israel's promised territory?" — Jerusalem Post, 5 days ago

They've removed it since. Too mask-off to release in english I guess.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago

Rabbi Shay Tahan, the Rosh Kollel of Shaarei Ezra in Brooklyn, NY, graciously opens the gates to understand them.

White dude from Brooklyn: "God promised me Lebanon"

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"promised territory" hmm where have I heard that before...

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

They believed this from day 1 I might add.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Where will "I'll attack them coz they attacked me coz I attacked them coz they attacked me..." finally lead to? Anything can be justified based on when you start looking at the history, and each new attack only fuels the next.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Go look at the northern ireland troubles. There are other similar situations in history but that's a good example. Essentially you have to get people talking until they agree to peace. Violence of any type just fuels more conflict.

I suspect Israel just wants to wipe out its enemies. That can't be done so they will have to stop one way or another.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago

Hmm. Would look for some documentaries on the same then.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Where will "I'll attack them coz they attacked me coz I attacked them coz they attacked me..." finally lead to?

The end of Israel as an apartheid genocidal settler-colonial state. You can look to South Africa for an example.

[–] [email protected] 93 points 3 days ago (5 children)

What the fuck you doing, Israel?

[–] [email protected] 83 points 3 days ago (10 children)

These kinda of things are why the US supports Israel. It helps destabilize the neighbors that don't fall in line with US interests. The US fears a sovereign Middle East where they get to choose what to do with their own countries and resources, not just for the usual Imperialist reasons, but because of the importance of the petrodollar system.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 days ago

exactly what the us allows them to do. I can only guess that kind old uncle sam has been feeding its billions in war change to israel for reasons more compelling than mere genocide (but that would suffice for some). a middle east ground "incursion" may be it.

because nothing could possibly go wrong with this. nothing at all.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

Whatever the fuck they want. Both American parties are pro-genocide, and their voters are either too stupid or too scared to demand otherwise. Its relevant because Israel could be doing absolutely none of this without US backing. US voters had (and somewhat still have) an opportunity to demand from their candidates but as I said, either too stupid or too scared to demand it.

Now Israel has carte blanc.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago

Genocide, same thing they've been doing with infinite help from the US

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 days ago (7 children)

99% of genocidal fascist settler states give up right before winning a 4 front war, FACT

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

This will lead to WW3. Plus the blow back will be endless. You can't murder tens of thousands of people, and displace and starve millions with out creating terrorists.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

They think that hezbollah and hamas and all the attacks on Israel by both are 100% unprovoked and brought on by some inbred hatred for jews. Hell, I was accused of being a bigot simply for being Lebanese and it was somehow taught to me as a child that I must hate Israel because of where I was born.

Nothing could be farther than the truth. I hate Israel and zionism the same way I fucking hate the nazis. It is because of what they believe, what they did, and what they are doing now, and what they plan on doing.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

And whatever blindfolded bigotry is in these areas they are justifying with their actions. Do they think someone who just had their lives, friends and family blown up or stolen by Israel is going to think rationally? I'd tell you what I'd do in the Palestinians shoes but it'll probably get me on a FBI watch list.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (5 children)

A person born with hatred out of those conditions is not a terrorist. They have every right to feel the way to do.

Typical westerners, acknowledging their plight and still blaming the victims.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not will be. Is. The blowback from last time was, among other things, Hezbollah.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (5 children)

There are countless fake Lebanese who claim that this invasion is justified and it is 100% hezbollah fault (yeah right) while not realizing that this shit could lead to something far worse.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 days ago (8 children)

So it's actually happening...

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 days ago

Israel is being run by a bunch of racist antisemitic ghouls

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