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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From Downunder. It's not really taught that much, if at all. From my experience (may vary), we know the basics like, War of Independence, George Washington, Constitution etc; but it doesn't go much deeper than that.

I'm guessing generally most countries have their own history to teach, and unless it was something more global (WWI, WWII), or you specifically took History in High School, it wouldn't go much further than that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would, not even joking, love to take high school history classes from a bunch of different places. I think that would be really enlightening to see where things overlap, get glossed over, completely skipped, etc.

The closest thing to Australian history I ever got was watching the Crocodile Hunter and that movie "A Rabbit Proof Fence"--that I watched in college as part of a class, but the professor let us bring booze in so I dont remember the second half of the movie.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

but the professor let us bring booze in so I dont remember the second half of the movie.

At least he was giving you that authentic Australian experience hahaha.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Argentinian here. The American Revolution is presented as one of the causes of the Argentine War of Independence.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Canada here. Basically, everything I learned is from parodies. American history is not a big deal in K-12 curriculum. If i had to write a 2 paragraph essay to save my life:

It was a period in history where guns were loaded one ball at a time by stuffing it down the barrel with a stick. Wealthy white people who profited off slavery all lived in the southern states for some reason. This group started to hear that other people in the rest of the (northern) states were starting to talk about making slavery illegal. To protect their interests they formed a separate government, formed an army and attempted to overtake and rule all of the states.

Their army wore red, and the north's defending army wore blue. They shot at each other with cannons for a few years and many people died, mostly from shitty health-care and infections rather than acute death. The north won and now lots of people who were never in the war, pretend to have the war again to remind them to never have a civil war.

I'd say the impact was that slavery was abolished, but it was abolished in many other countries without a civil war so I guess the impact was a lot of parody material for pop culture.

And that is all I know about Paul Revere and the American Revolution.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you are talking about the American Civil War. The revolution was about a hundred years earlier.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah. I know my stuff. This is for sure the Revolution.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

This is exactly like when Americans talk about history of other places. Just in reverse.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

😂🤣😭

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Canadian. I'm not sure it's even taught in Canadian schools other than "Americans revolted against Britan while Canadians stayed loyal to the empire. We obtained independence diplomatically instead of through revolution" and "United Empire Loyalist" means the person's family was American but fled to Canada in order to stay in the empire instead of join the revolutionaries.

I only learned about why Canadians stayed loyal after school by researching it myself. The high taxes imposed by the king didn't affect northern colonies as much as it did our southern neighbours. Also, Britian would have had a much easier time with a naval invasion of Canada if they needed to squash a revolution (which is why the French settlers of Quebec didn't rebel even though France assisted the American revolutionaries).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It isn't whatsoever in Poland

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Btw, we need !USdefaultism here on lemmy

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

As someone who didn't take history beyond the age of... 14? I learned precisely nothing about the American Revolution

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Malaysian here, it’s never taught here.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Australian. Al that I know about that event was learnt from reddit conversations 😂

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Germany: I got 45 min in History (Advanced course/'Leistungskurs'), 3 10 min presentations in English class. Short story: "Lincoln didn't like slavery, States seceded, war, North won, L. abolished slavery formally, got shot, racism persisted."

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like they got their American wars mixed up. That was the Civil War not Revolutionary War.

[–] treadful 1 points 1 year ago

North won, L.

lol, that reads a little different than you intended, I think.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I’m from Canada, we learned about it as part of a general colonization and exploration lessons.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is mentioned, mostly because the norwegian constitution takes inspiration from the american and the french ones. Though as revolutions go, the american one is considerably less covered than (one of) the french or russian ones.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The French Revolution ultimately resulted in the Napoleonic Wars, which then resulted in the Congress of Vienna and the next 100 years of (relative) peace and stability in Europe. Next to the French Revolution, the American one was a blip at the time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Grew up in the UK in the 80s and 90s, and had comprehensive education on US history, including the Revolution. Also learned about the slave trade and the civil war, and then politics right up until the 20th century. May have helped that my home town had a small, but important role in early colonization.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When I was at school in the UK, the War of Independence and the creation of the United States was taught from the perspective of slavery and the loss of the British Colonies in America, as well as the impact that the U.S. Constitution had on republicanism and anti-Monarchism.

We didn't go into very much detail, though. It wasn't until years later that I learned really anything about Founding Fathers (aside from George Washington and Thomas Jefferson) and the Paul Reveres, etc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

UK. I don't think it's taught at all. we learn about early colonies, puritans, and about the slave trade, but not the Revolution.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

From Latin America.

It was kind of like a blurb in the text book, basically.

But it gives context to other revolutions going on in the Americas before.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

In Estonia we got a brief history lessor for most bigger countries, including the US and since the US is such a new nation it was fairly brief and most of it was skipped but the revolution and civil war were mentioned. Our history class focused mostly on Estonian history and it's neighbors.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I just remember the French gave them the statue of liberty because they hated the British. That's about it. Just one of tons of wars and revolutions to remember some dates for a test and then forget; not super interesting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

as an american, I find it interesting that american history would be taught in other countries. i suppose it makes sense in Canada, Mexico, and the Philippians, but in other countries? thats wild.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I had to study things like qing dynasty china and the nubian empire in high school, so I would hope the rest of the world would study the beginnings of european settlment in the new world.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In France not even a mention about it if i remeber .

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's nuts considering the French helped with it, both militarily and financially. The Americans then didn't even pay France back, and that caused problems with France. Eventually, the US bought the Louisiana territory from the French so the French could continue to fund their fight against the British. Despite the rude lack of payment by the Americans, the French gave the US the Statue of Liberty as a gift to celebrate the USA's 100th birthday, liberal democracy, and the abolition of slavery.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Was briefly mentioned, never taught.

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