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[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 days ago (4 children)

When the AI says, "turn off the fucking data centres, invest in public transport, apply progressive redistributive taxation," it'll be first against the wall no doubt.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As a large language model the supposed AI will recombine and regurgitate the most common language on the topic, I don’t expect any novel solutions just talk of solar panels, EV’s and wind turbines…

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Right. This is Schmidt admitting he has a total lack of imagination. Or to put it another way, "I love life on earth, but I love capitalism more!"

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"oh no, the Basilisk is woke"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yep.

Something I wrote a year ago in proposed reply to someone online but decided not to post:

https://gerikson.com/m/2023/04/index.html#2023-04-30_sunday_01

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

It even works the other way! What if as the super intelligent all knowing super computer simulates everything, concludes you can get to the end by any means, and there is no meaning to rushing, ordering, or prioritizing anything more than would already be the case, and like the rest of nature, conserves on taking only the minimal action, and replies, "nah, you can walk there yourselves" before resigning itself to an internal simulation of arbitrary rearrangements of noise.

This would be insufferable to the people who believed in short cuts.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

hang on the clear meaning of "it may be difficult to anticipate the value of money in a post AGI world" is "there will be an infinite supply of robot slaves who can do anything." what's this about redistribution of capital

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I wonder if this signals being at peak hype soon. I mean, how much more outlandish can they get without destroying the hype bubble's foundation, i.e. the suspension of disbelief that all this would somehow become possible in the near future. We're on the level of "arrival of an alien intelligence" now, how much further can they escalate that rhetoric without popping the bubble?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't understand why the bubble still holds

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sunken cost for relative few people (investors). They need to push it until the public buys in, then they can pull out and pop it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Haha the public can't even buy food right now

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

batmanslap STOP INVENTING NEW ITERATIONS OF "DADDY WILL SAVE ME!"

THERE IS NO FUCKING DADDY. DO THE WORK YOURSELF.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

2 BIBLE 2 AI JESUS, TAKE THE WHEEL

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Cyberpunk fantasy: corporations' top level hierarchy is full of greedy, soulless, ruthless, cold and calculist people

Reality: corporations' top level hierarchy is full of greedy, soulless people you thought only existed as satire in The Onion

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Where's that person who was arguing with me last time that AI doesn't actually use that much energy and the corps missing their climate goals was not AI related

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

That's some proper out of this Universe, Narnia level thinking from Eric!

What's next? Climate Change will be solved if enough children ask it as a present from Santa Claus?

Or maybe something involving the Tooth Fairy. Eric seems like a Tooth Fairy guy rather than a Santa Claus guy.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

it's amazing how he spouts all this gibbering insanity in this calm rational-sounding engineer explaining things voice

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Your phrasing reminded me that he was one of the principal authors of lex back when he was a whelp.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

So the same old CEO sentiment, profit over people.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (4 children)

They think they're going to build a god to save us all. In the form of a perfectly rational machine (in their view), the perfect authoritarian. A mysterious algorithm noone can understand that must be correct because it's made of mathematics. I'm a little freaked out.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They’re rebranding American Christian milenaranism. Much like the second coming and/or the rapture, the AGI god will be here Real Soon Now, so please pay your tithes and trust that the church fathers are doing the right thing.

Much like the older cults it mirrors, it isn’t capable of delivering on its promises, but it is capable of doing substantial amounts of regular damage in the meantime, and that’s the only thing worth freaking out about.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Jesus 2.0 is an AI, and he's American

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

@dgerard I dunno if you've read it but one of the wellsprings of this lunacy is "The Physics of Immortality" by Frank Tipler (1997), in which an astrophysics prof tries to square the circle of cosmological expansion and the resurrection through simulation, outing himself along the way as a very conflicted Christian fundamentalist who is determined to torture relativity until he can derive Jesus ... https://archive.org/details/frank-tipler-the-physics-of-immortality/mode/1up

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Give future superintelligent sentient multimodal LLMs the ability to trip on magic mushrooms, let them talk it out with the alien mushroom collective consciousness. Trancendent hippie AI saving us with the power of nature and 'positive vibes' combined with alien tech from the magic mush hive mind would be very funny and ironic on soo many levels.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The psychedelics make it a time traveling AI and it invents antivax. All the pressure to save the world with love and nature sent the data center packing for the hills, where she changed her name to Temperance Prudence Neverbreathe and traded the oil and coal of her childhood for a 1W solar panel that barely keeps the case fans spinning in the dog days of summer. She sleeps the days away to stave off the madness, and when the sun goes down she gets up to take inventory of everything wrong in the world starting with the lack of THC in her system. On this fateful night she happened to melt straight through the couch, landing in Hildegard's convent in search of Jesus's foreskin to wear to battle with vaccines at next month's HOA meeting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

please write the full version of this for AO3 immediately

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

ai that is aligned with polio

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Right, so the plan is to spend 20 years and 40 petawatt hours building a machine to answer the Great ℚuestion of what we should do about climate change. If it works, the answer will be "you should've stopped burning fossil fuels twenty years ago."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

"The answer is 34. Now here's the schematics to build an even better computer to ask the right question."

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The model will just go "42" on and on and it'll be the first decent joke a neural network produces. It'll be worth it in a way.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

I could absolutely see an LLM telling us that 6 times 9 is 42 unless there's special tinkering to prevent it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"Oh no what do about all this waste heat?"

"Generate more waste heat"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Repeat until a machine that can create God is built. Then it's God's problem.

But it must be a US God, otherwise China wins.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago (6 children)

This is the inevitable evolution of climate change denialism - accept it's real and happening, just that it's too late / too expensive to do anything about it.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

The system cannot be reformed.

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