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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Wasn't Boeing the one whose wages have been compared to minimum wage jobs despite requiring significantly more expertise and having more responsibilities in case of problems/failures? Even 40% seems low for that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Boeing is the one found not bothering to check whether plane doors were bolted down, and ended up losing it mid flight. This complete lack of responsibility has been an issue there for a while

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Oh, I was more thinking in terms of judging those percentages specifically. I am well aware that the best thing Boeing could do for aviation safety would be to just close down completely at this point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think those are both signs of upper management being shit

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, of that and of the fact that the government regulators dropped the ball in various areas either on regulation or enforcement of that regulation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't the us kind of about a lack of regulation?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Pretty much, the problem with that idea that the market solves everything on its own is that it just isn't true unless you have some very specific kind of product (one where the barrier to entry into the market is low so there is plenty of competition, the buyer can judge the quality even if they lack expertise and buys frequently and can recognize whether the product is actually the same or changed in the meantime and where the buyer is free not to buy) and 90% of products aren't like that, more if you take away regulation on things like trademarks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Any product like that would be a product most people would just make themselves, like paper airplanes

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Eh, I don't think they should close down, they just need to have their management completely replaced with people who care about aviation safety.

Boeing has a lot of interesting tech, so don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, but we definitely need someone competent to come in and scrub the tub.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I feel it is not just management though, there is a certain kind of corporate culture that is very slow to change. On the other hand if Boeing closed down and most of their assets were bought and employees were employed in a new company there wouldn't be an expectation by anyone that things would continue as they have been.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

But who would buy them? I guess someone like Lockheed Martin, or maybe an airline, idk. And then there's no guarantee they'll use it to build commercial airplanes.

I think it would be much better to try to fix the executive team and have that culture trickle down. My company is going through a leadership change, and the cultural shift seems to be pretty quick.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago

...well I definitely don't want to ride on a plane made by a company that spites the workers responsible for keeping it in the air.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

In response to the walkout that has shut down production of some of its planes, the company has suspended the jobs of tens of thousands of staff .

isn't that illegal?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

I'm starting to think someone at Boeing is shorting their own company.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Yeah, that'll show 'em.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

A company spokesman clarified:

"30%? BAHAHAHAHAA!

That was a misprint. It was meant to be 0.3%, you pinko, commie bastards."