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[–] [email protected] 6 points 21 minutes ago* (last edited 17 minutes ago)

Oh, look, a post on Lemmy about Windows. I'm excited to engage in a unique, nuanced discussion about the topic of the post!

So glad I'm not on Reddit where people just repeat the same predictable thing over and over then jerk each other off.

(I use Linux too. But I hate seeing copy+paste Linux shilling on every Windows post. It's preaching to the choir and uninspired.)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Literally moved everything to Linux (Nobara) like 3 weeks ago and the only thing I can't get to work is Bizhawk which I can easily get around. It's insane how far Linux has come for gaming and whatnot.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago

I was thinking how, back in the day, the most popular web browser was IE, which wasn't on Linux. Now the most popular browser is Chrome, which has been on Linux since 2009 or whenever it was.

And of course lots of other big software is on Linux, like VS Code, Zoom, Slack, Skype. And Linux is on the Steam Deck. So yes I agree, Linux has come a long way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

mine hasnt been updated for about 3.5 years now. not having online access has its moments

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

But you had to fax this comment in.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 hours ago

see? your limited understanding of the many ways to communicate are on full display

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair, I may have stopped getting updates anyway? I suspect what happened is typical, that some Win10 update bugged the update process and I was supposed to either roll it back or get the next one by hand and just... didn't.

It is my intention to start looking at linux distros and have one installed by Summer 25...assuming I haven't immolated in a wildfire or been sent to a detention center by then.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Same thing happened to me a few years ago. My old laptop from 2013 is hardware incompatible with something in modern Windows10 and when it tried installing the late 2019 update it just died. Had to buy a new laptop to keep working.

Today, that same laptop is happily running Arch Linux. I'm still trying to decide what I'll do with the main gaming PC.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Already switched to linux. I still have one windows drive that I haven't booted for about a year. Haven't relied on virtual machines or anything.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 hours ago

I've turned a few older neighbors on to Linux when they complained that window updates caused their PC's to run too slow.

I'd tell them 'before you go out and buy a new computer, let me install Linux if you don't like it, you lose nothing. In the end, each one of them was happy their computer was running like new again.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Frankly, I don't care.

I'm going to keep using Windows 10, updates or not, until I absolutely have no other choice, hoping against hope that the cracks in the Recall/AI monolith with have spread wide enough that a future Win 12 or 13 won't have them in it. I don't run a business. I don't keep sensitive information on any internet capable devices and my work uses the AS400 system.

I know Linux is a thing, and about a dozen years ago I spent a year using Ubuntu exclusively. While appreciating the OS, I got tired of chanting magic spells at computer every time I wanted to use software I liked on it, and so went back to Windows.

These days, despite being a reasonably tech savvy person approaching 60, I'm getting to the point where I'm just not up to learning/relearning an OS unless there is a critical need, and using Windows 10 there just isn't. At least not for me.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

The days of "chanting magic spells at computer" being synonymous with the Linux experience are far gone. I recommend you just make a Fedora installer and take it for a spin on the live test system! You don't need to commit to it to just try it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

[Children of the Omnissiah plays]

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Some questions:

What version of Linux does Fedora install? Is it directly compatible with Windows software such as games and OBS, or does it require modifications/compatibility installations such as WINE? Does it have documented support online or is it a matter of haunting forums and such for when problems occur? And no matter how solid an OS is, I will tend to break it, generally by doing stupid shit, but I will break it. Before putting it back together. Which is generally how I tend to learn software.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

If you are going to play games you might as well go and try Bazzite instead! It's built on a Fedora base with some good additions:

  • It's atomic: this basically means that everytime yov boot your computer you'll have the choice of booting onto the newest version of your system, or the one before. If you fuck up anything it's as easy as reverting to the last version where things were alright!

  • It comes with a bunch of preloaded drivers and compatibility layers: makes compatibility with modern games and software as good as you can get it without having to tinker heaps. It's pretty seamless.

  • The installer includes many programs by default. Just tick a few boxes and you can choose to have Spotify, OBS, Discord or Darktable automatically installed in your computer

As for the documented support you can probably go a long way with the Arch, Gentoo and Fedora wikis. Other than that I'm afraid it's gonna be relying on forums and Reddit. I've never irreversably broken my Fedora system for what is worth, and I don't consider myself that tech savvy!

Game support is also really good these days. Anything that you can play via Steam will basically run. And performance is better for some games on Linux these days! Itch.io also has good support I think. You should be able to run most things that don't use shady anti-cheat, but forget about League of Legends, Valorant or Fortnite.

I'm not sure what you mean by Linux version! But Fedora (and Bazzite) belong to their own "branch" of Linux, apart from Debian and Arch. Their philosophy is a balance between rock-solid stability (Debian) vs bleeding-edge software (Arch) that many people, including me, think hits the sweet spot quite well!

If there's anything I missed or you are curious feel free to ask more questions :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

What version of Linux does Fedora install?

Whatever resides in its repositories for the specific release of Fedora. What exactly do you need the specific version for? I'm sorry, but this question sounds as if you were trying to imitate some kind of savvyness.

Is it directly compatible with Windows software such as games and OBS,

Linux doesn't present Windows NT ABI, if that is your question. It's a different operating system, and it would be a very weird expectation of it to do that.

or does it require modifications/compatibility installations such as WINE?

Wine is a userland implementation of Windows subsystem for NT, only for Unix-likes.

So yes, if you want to run Windows applications, you are going to use Wine.

Does it have documented support online or is it a matter of haunting forums and such for when problems occur?

Good documentation is present, unlike with Windows. Haunting forums is generally not our way of doing things. However, that will yield better results than Windows, too.

And no matter how solid an OS is, I will tend to break it, generally by doing stupid shit, but I will break it. Before putting it back together. Which is generally how I tend to learn software.

I'm not sure you're an adult. I'm also not sure you've written a single line of code in your life.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

This will be the best thing that ever happened to Linux. Hell, it might even make it up to 4.5% market share.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago

Last I heard it was 4%.

Maybe it will make 5% next year, then.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago

I'm definitely migrating to Linux at some point before then

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

Graphic card ist what get's me nervos

[–] [email protected] 33 points 16 hours ago (24 children)

A better use case for linux desktop could not have been invented.

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