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[–] [email protected] 341 points 11 months ago (22 children)
[–] [email protected] 123 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Sounds like they really want people to use Firefox!

[–] [email protected] 71 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They fund Mozilla a ton on purpose. They want a small subset of people to use Firefox. It keeps them from the monopoly investigations

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2023-05-05/why-google-keeps-paying-mozilla-s-firefox-even-as-chrome-dominates

[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (11 children)

I knew about that. They also pay to be the default search engine on Firefox.

But my joke was that these changes make it seem like they don't want people to use Chrome anymore and switch to Firefox instead. If users knew about this stuff and understood it, Firefox would bounce back.

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[–] [email protected] 185 points 11 months ago (11 children)

Please, everyone, stop using Chrome. This is an easy vote with your wallet that doesn't even require your wallet.

Complacency means the internet gets worse, ads get worse, nickel and diming gets worse. It's the easiest chance to take a stand you'll ever have.

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[–] [email protected] 161 points 11 months ago (32 children)
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[–] [email protected] 113 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Firefox gets like 90% of its revenue from Google.

Keep Firefox independent and donate: https://donate.mozilla.org/en-US/?form=donate

[–] [email protected] 56 points 11 months ago (3 children)

But donating your money can not make firefox independent.It will only make firefox more revenue.

Google wants to keep mozilla afloat to stay out of anti-competitive allegations.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

If mozilla gets market share, google will defund them. That mozilla have a money will help.

Also mozilla's other projects are also good ;)

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago

And the money won't go to Firefox, but Mozilla's other projects.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Firefox has been my go-to, but I've left Chrome installed just to have on hand incase some website fuckiness could be solved with a browser change.

Naw. It's not worthy of staying around even for that. Time to completely scrub my devices of google.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Feeling the same, it’s surprising how many companies are just leaning towards screwing users for a few more pennies on the dollar. Eventually, Google with be the next AOL.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The site you've linked to literally uses Facebook and Google browser trackers. Pretty hypocritical of them if you ask me.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 11 months ago (3 children)

So my takeaway from this is to never use Chrome again? Gotcha.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (4 children)

If everyone who said they were going to do this actually did this, Chrome wouldn't do this, if that makes sense.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 11 months ago (12 children)

For people who roll their eyes when someone mentions Linux and all of the free and open source projects adjacent to it (including Firefox!), this is exactly why many people value those things. We actually can have freedom in computing and it's worth pushing for. We don't have to roll over simply accept what Google, Microsoft and Apple want.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 11 months ago (29 children)

We have firefox, iceweasel, fennec (android). Anything else not firefox based is chrome based. Don't get tricked by opera and similars.

You can still change browser.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 11 months ago (3 children)

You guys are way to late to quit chrome, and you probably won't at this point. This is what happens when you don't swap, you enable this anti-consumer monopoly behavior.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 11 months ago (25 children)

I change from Chrome to Firefox recently on all devices and it was a pretty easy transition.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (10 children)

Lol nice. People using chrome be like

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Back in the old days when a software contains these crap, considered as adware/malware and people get their pitchforks.

Now: its normal.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Switched back to Firefox. Easy transition. Fuck Google.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Every single thing about Google sucks nowadays. Great job Sundar, you successfully turned one of the former most exciting companies on the planet into one of the absolute lamest.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Time to uninstall chrome. Can I move my passwords, bookmarks and saved data there? How do I do it?

[–] [email protected] 70 points 11 months ago (1 children)

When you install any browser (Firefox recommend) it ask you if you want to transfer browser data. It will guide you through (its pretty much automatic)

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (13 children)

just adding that granted FF already has a decent password manager there are also reliable, free and open source and audited independent password manager like as

  • Bitwarden (remote service as basic or premium plan, optionally self hosted, user friendly service, very likely has some account migration wizard tool to help importing data from browsers) and
  • KeepassXC (local, user managed, a bit techy)

which both can plug in any browser through their respective extension.

Being both an independent option from the browser they help the user not making him vendor locked to his browser through his saved data.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago

getfirefox.com

[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Now that Firefox is getting in-page translation capability, Chrome does not offer any features I am missing anymore. As long as they don't start performance wars, like the shit that happened with Youtube a while ago, I'll be fine

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago (16 children)

So as far as i know, firefox is the only mayor browser not based on chromium. Also, firefox is dependent on google's funding because of a search engine exclisivity deal. So my understanding is that, if google decides to kill firefox, they could easily do that. Well, what then? Is there any other browser left wich similar features that would be untouchable by google?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

They couldn't kill Firefox without having the US government come down on them for monopoly. Which the government is already looking at https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/24/tech/doj-google-lawsuit/index.html , so it's not likely Google will risk it even further by shitting down funding to Firefox. Pretty sure they'll point at Firefox to claim they're not a monopoly.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago (11 children)

I tried to preach why Google sharing your browsing history with ad partners is bad, but most of my friends don't seem to care. :(

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Honestly, I was already using FF for my home. Made the switch on Mobile after seeing this on the news yesterday. I'm just one person though.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago

Not used anything but Firefox for the last 10 years or so. Can't remember how long I've used DDG for. Fuck Google and all who fail in her.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago

It's lucky I haven't used Chrome in years. Firefox is much appreciated these days.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago

I should have never left Firefox when chrome came out. Its good to be back. Especially before any of this happened.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Unlike the glitzy front-page Google blog post that the redesign got, the big ad platform launch announcement is tucked away on the privacysandbox.com page.

The blog post says the ad platform is hitting "general availability" today, meaning it has rolled out to most Chrome users.

This has been a long time coming, with the APIs rolling out about a month ago and a million incremental steps in the beta and dev builds, but now the deed is finally done.

Users should see a pop-up when they start up Chrome soon, informing them that an "ad privacy" feature has been rolled out to them and enabled.

That's actually what started this whole process: Apple dealt a giant blow to Google's core revenue stream when it blocked third-party cookies in Safari in 2020.

Google says it will block third-party cookies in the second half of 2024—presumably after it makes sure the "Privacy Sandbox" will allow it to keep its profits up.


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