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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago

"IN THE HUNDREDS"

Good god someone please operation overlord these mother fuckers.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 day ago (2 children)

i sincerely hope his actions haunt him for the rest of his pathetic life

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I'm pretty sure they did.

Six months after he was first sent to fight, he was struggling with post-traumatic stress disorder [...] Before he was due to redeploy, he took his own life.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait... He crushed HUNDREDS of people with a bulldozer in less than 6 months‽ What the actual fuck.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago

Too cowardly to do anything useful to make amends. Just let another conscript fill his space.

Brave enough to drive over Palestinians and call them "terrorists in their hundreds". Not brave enough to stand up to criticism from his countrymen. This is what spending billions of dollars on an asymmetrical war gets you: a system in which the weakest people can still take the lives of hundreds before being thrown away themselves.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Indoctrination is a hell of a drug.

Not saying these guys should be absolved, but they're doing this because they think they're the good guys/helping out.

We should be lamblasting their leadership and all of Israel's parliament that's enabling this.

But sometimes, soldiers are just soldiers/grunts. US Soldiers have similar PTSD after Afghanistan and Iraq. Not absolving them of sins, but when you're trained for most of your adult life to take orders and not question them, and then those orders include killing innocents, it's difficult to break from the indoctrination/control a group has had over you in the moment. Usually it's not until you're finished with your tour and you're back home and had time to decompress that you realize the horrors you witnessed and perpetuated.

Again, not justifying it in any way, but if we don't humanize Israeli soldiers, we run the risk of turning them into boogeymen like we did the Nazis. They were human too, and by not acknowledging that and how far humanity can go when they are supporting nationalist movements, we do great harm to any attempt to catch and correct these sort of things early.

There's no switch that gets flipped that turns people into monsters. The worst atrocities ever committed upon humanity were by other humans. We need to acknowledge that they're all human, or we risk repeating history.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

They made a choice, do not absolve people of what they are doing and continue to do, especially if it's fucking genocide, that's literally how these things happen as well as the Holocaust.

At some point, people have to stand up and say no, voice their concerns, and just simply do the right thing.

Literally read what you wrote, the world already did what you are scared about to the Palestinians and is continuing to do so, are you tone deaf?

How about we fucking Humanize Palestine

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 2 days ago (1 children)

One of the reasons for creating the system of death camps was that Nazi soldiers and policemen tasked with murdering Jewish people and other undesirables had elevated rates of PTSD. Also, during the Cultural Revolution, the People's liberation Army switched to a lower caliber sidearm because all the executions were giving them carpel tunnel.

You don't want to loose sight of humanity just because you're committing atrocity.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I know that another driving force for the gas chambers was to preserve ammunition.

The earliest versions of gas chambers were essentially "piping truck exhaust into a building." They moved on from that in order to preserve metal (from the piping), fuel, and vehicles for other purposes.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hope not that he dies but that he lives to watch everything he cares about crumble to dust as he is powerless to the winds of change

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Dude killed himself (the one the article is about).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dude also killed a lot of people

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Bulldozed over them. Alive and dead. Couldn't take the gore no longer.

I have empathy for him, honesty. He belived the propaganda about defending the country an all that. Then was ordered to to horrible things. He experienced the difference between a lie told and a lie lived and just couldn't deal with it.

He not the bad guy here.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I'm actually speechless.

I hope this guy suffers until his end.

If you run over HUNDREDS with a BULLDOZER, you deserve permanent PTSD to prevent you from ever fucking thinking of doing anything remotely like it again

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I believe this particular quote is from a soldier who took his own life. How. Tragic.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago

Too bad about the order of operations

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago

Gee I fucking wonder why you have trauma and PTSD??? Fucking moronic fucks, zero sympathy

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 days ago

ah Israelis and playing the victim, name a more iconic duo.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

Aww, war criminals

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago

Let me go get my Planck length sized violin.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

Child murderer.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How naive of me to think "That can't be a real article. Surely they wouldn't publish themselves saying they crushed living and dead people by the hundreds with an armored bulldozer. They must know how abhorrent, insane, and shocking that sounds. Right?"

No. Of course the worst excesses of violence which had never crossed my mind are being done by the IDF. I'm... I have no words.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Just as Chris Hedges predicted.

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