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Every two days a new thread with hundreds of comments of a bunch of liberals doing the same fucking talking points about the election. It doesn't even fucking matter but so many people are just so enthusiastic to be hand-wringing or smug or whatever their preferred flavor of insufferable is, presumably mostly because they've been acculturated by liberal media to the idea that Trump is the apocalypse despite the fact that we already saw how Trump bumbles his way through a term!

It's just so bad, you can't talk about it anywhere there without someone leaping down your throat to say the same shit you've heard before.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 hour ago

thats why this is the only place I shitpost. That makes me the only real communist here and you all are liberals.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Yeah I'm only on .ml so I can argue with libs.

I just hope that after the elections the libs will become less inflamed and settle down. (I doubt it but I can hope!)

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The only settling these libs are planning on doing is in the West Bank.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 hour ago

Heyo

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I don't know how you do it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 minutes ago

It's a sickness. 🫠

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 hour ago

I subscribe to nearly all the Hexbear and Lemmygrad comms, and my view is subscribe. It saves my mental health.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 hour ago

lemmitor qin-shi-huangdi-fireball

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

It's like r/roi all over again... or even r/cth

[+] [email protected] -1 points 51 minutes ago (5 children)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 minutes ago

really awesome system you got there where you spin a roulette wheel to determine the make-up of the 9 god kings who decree all laws and are appointed for life, and it's entirely random who gets appointed based on when they die

definitely not an inherent issue with your entire system, just a single bad election to that fascist Drumpf ruined everything

[–] [email protected] 9 points 26 minutes ago (1 children)

"Changed the direction of the country"

Gonna need a fat source on that one because for everyone who actually cracks a history book, or fuck it, skims Wikipedia even... it's pretty clear that the US has always been a reactionary fascistic hellscape with only small moments of a glint of possible redemption immediately snuffed out as it lurches back into reactionary sentiments.

Examples being post-Civil War reconstruction being stalled out, the constitution not being scrapped in whole in favor of a new one, etc. Or post-FDR when the more left-leaning liberal policies were working quite well, Truman gets in and immediately wants to go genocide Korea to prove he isn't a dirty commie... or whatever bullshit.

So, again, gonna need some sort of actually coherent explanation for how Trump is the aberration as opposed to Justice Warren and Justice Thurgood Marshall being the aberrations. The oddballs, historically, who actually managed to implement the will of the people (to a small, limited degree of course) via SCOTUS... only to spark like 70 years of asshurt from reactionaries who came up with a plan of action and executed it. Trump was just the final domino in that specific plan. It was always going to succeed eventually regardless of which republican held office because the liberals never bothered to actually substantially pushback on the reactionaries. Almost like they either agree or don't actually care and just cynically pretend to care.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 31 minutes ago (1 children)

our democratically elected government

The US is a democracy in the same way as when only land-owning, white men could vote, or as Israel is now.

I'm sure the people who it benefits love to call it "democracy".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 25 minutes ago (1 children)

If we are splitting hairs than it’s a representative democracy, sorry I had to spell it out for you, but you should have learned this in 3rd grade

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 minutes ago

You should have learned by now that representative democracy is not a meaningful practice, given its track record of almost no successes.

Also, you literally do coups - including against democratically elected governments - all the time, and don't have an issue with that.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 46 minutes ago (1 children)

Thank you for demonstrating my point. Please pick another thread to go cry about the Capitol riot in, it's not like there's a lack of liberal and more-highly-federated (and thereby more liberal) instances to do that in.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 43 minutes ago

You brought it up?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 35 minutes ago (1 children)

Marx grasped this essence of capitalist democracy splendidly when, in analyzing the experience of the Commune, he said that the oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class shall represent and repress them in parliament!

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Democracy for an insignificant minority, democracy for the rich — that is the democracy of capitalist society.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/ch05.htm

you're embarrassing yourself

[–] [email protected] -1 points 23 minutes ago (4 children)

lol, your facts are from marxists.org? Should I also take advice from trumps website? Pointing to an obviously biased website is crazy

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 minutes ago

Everybody is biased. Denying one's own biases just means that you do not understand them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 minutes ago

Everyone is biased, dipshit. Including you and the sources you get your news from. Not understanding something as fundamental as this makes your smugness even more embarrassing than it already is. Keep it up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 minutes ago

Tagline material.

Marxists.org is a collection of works on political theory. They aren't really biased beyond wanting to preserve the works and provide easy access to them.

The link is to something written by Lenin in 1917, referencing something Marx wrote earlier. I suppose you could say that Lenin and Marx were biased in the sense that they had strong views but that isn't a valid reason to dismiss everything they ever said, and that ignorant perspective is just going to get you laughed at here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 minutes ago

marxists.org is an archive of hundreds of thousands of texts by influential sociologists, historians, political economists and political theorists. It's not our "facts" it's an argument in the form of a written text. Perhaps you should sit down and take the time to read sometimes and maybe learn something.