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there's no communities for my niche interests!!!

more like "i want a ready-made community where other people already putting effort into posting cool and intersting stuff, and all I want to do is sit on my ass and shower posts generously with """muh upvotes™""""

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe the answer is a better search engine to find the communities.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I don't even know how to find new communities that aren't part of my instance. Is there some place that just lists them by date created?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

On my instance you just click "Communities" at the top and it gives you a list of communities with three options at the top Subscribed/Local/All just like the main feed. Click all and you can browse or search the list of all communities, though the search is not great.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

Lemmy Explorer will do it...I think. "Newest publish time" sort is what you're looking for, I think.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

That would certainly help.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

"Why complain about lacking a community when you can create your own ghost town"

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 hours ago

Exactly

Someone has already created my niche community, and there are 2 people in it, and it hasn't grown since I joined, and that makes the conversations in it boring af

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

Can't wait for 0 people to join my Haibane Renmei community that I don't have the experience or patience to mod, nor the understanding of the source material to justify creating it in the first place

ETA: I just searched, and found out one person already has made a Haibane Renmei community. It has one subscriber, the person who made it, who has been inactive since 2022. There are some things that simply can't be replicated in a smaller platform.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago

Modding a niche Lemmy community is a breeze, honestly

Not much is happening, but not many troublemakers, either. Modding is pretty much zero effort.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Haibane Renmei

I had to look this up, is it Lain adjacent? Very similar artworks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

I don't think there are any" rant" communities?

Lemmy needs that kind of large general topic community to redirect users to smaller niches communities.

I too also wouldn't want to mod it, but I think it'd be great for herding up angry lemmy users sharing the same frustrations, so they could be redirected or start new communities for the particular topic.

The reason is that everyone enjoy reading and writing rants about something, so the rant community will automatically grow many subscribers coming in from all kinds of searches.

For example, a user ranting about "womens pants without pockets" would get much more engagement than someone just creating and posting about a community for womens pants. The rant comment section would also already often include the potential users for a new community.

The general discussion doesn't really cut it, because it's too nice and polite and weird angry rants don't really fit in there.

The thing is that (also in real life) when someone needs something bad enough, they'll get angry, and that anger can be channeled into something useful, because they're willing to collaborate with others who can help them or who at least supports them.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

The problem is that the niche community exist. In fact it probably exists several times, one in each instance with a small number of followers. Which makes really hard to go and decide in which community you want to invest.

It's one fundamental problem of federative systems and to be solved some of the federal nature need to be partially given away, but I think is necessary. I propose two solutions:

  1. Automatic merging of communities. All communities with the same name within a federation are de facto replicated. So a post in any community just replicate in all. It will make it seem like there's only one community.

2 Discourage. Everytime you try to create a community that already exists in other instance a pop up appears that encourage you to just go to the other community. For already duplicated communities messages are sent to concentrate in the biggest one.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

I like it, but that's not the model Lemmy was built around.

It'd be neat if, instead of posting to a community you posted to your instance and tagged your post with a topic, and then instances could contain topic aggregators with moderators that moderated their local view of the topic.

But even that comes with challenges around protection at-risk people like kids, where nobody is fully able to control the discourse around them.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I don't agree with either of those. Just not what federation is. A bettet solution would be to implement a category section that you can edit or automatically parses similar names.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I don’t agree with that either considering that any Joe Blow could essentially snipe a community either with an unpopular instance federating and posting garbage (which mods on other instances can’t even remove) or by using a popular instance to create that duplicate community and then posting content there that even more people are likely to see and siphon away from an already established community.

Second option is also a bad idea, the less guardrails the better.

My solution is one I’ve discussed with many people on Lemmy now. What we need are topics or in other words, the ability for reposts on followed communities not to be seen more than once. If that feature also allows for federating the actual repost to where by default all comments to to the same thread, that would be perfect.

This enables people to post to a main community and a niche community at the same exact time without spamming members who follow both communities. Then the main community gets alerted of the niche communities existence and the niche community benefits from the content.

That way we develop this sort of hub system that’s really nice where the general communities like a gaming community aren’t just generic, they feature posts from all niches in that sphere and alert you to new stuff you might enjoy. That’s my rant.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

I like the topic system. Allows to post and see without worries of duplication.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I see this response all the time "create your own if you want to see niche communities and Reddit communities migrate here." Well, if I have the bloody time to moderate, or even if I do, will there be many people? And if there are many people, do I have the time to moderate? What if there are mod bickering and drama?

The question is time. Does anyone else have the time to moderate and put up with BS inevitable with most communities?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

I've been asking for a personal finance community for a while. The only US-based one I've found is on .ml, which...ew. I haven't made one because I do not have the time to mod a big, popular sub like that one will hopefully become.

Buuuuut I got tired of waiting for someone else to do it so I made it: https://lemmy.world/c/[email protected]

I'm sure it will be a shitshow but at least I tried.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

New user here. Where should I create my community? Are there servers or groups or something that I should review first? I don't know the difference between a server and .world or .ml or whatever.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

.world and .ml are servers. I’d recommend choosing a server related to your topic (programming.zone if it’s comp sci related, for example), and try to avoid piling into the largest ones (.world and .ml, etc.).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Thank you very much for the response

Is reddthat a server? Should all of the communities inside a server be related? I'm asking because I want to create communities but I don't know where it's appropriate to do so. For example, if I want to create a sub for venting about family, is it okay to do that on any server? Or do I have to go digging to find the "correct" server?

[–] [email protected] 63 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I did. There's almost zero engagement. My most popular thread is a meta narrative about me being in there talking to myself. There were at least two other attempts that are even more inactive. Not enough of y'all are into synthesizers.

https://lemm.ee/c/synthesizers

[–] [email protected] 1 points 52 minutes ago

We need better discoverable tools. I subscribed to the community

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

I'd never seen this community before. Subscribed!

I'm terrible at keyboards, but I do like to play with 'em.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

Welcome to the club!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

Same! On all those things

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

What are you talking about all of you here man! Spending a sec of your time on a community about a subject that you are interested is a really big task for you? That's lame and lazy and shows lack of any vision

You should already brainstorming to make communities more innovative and better than reddit

[–] [email protected] 19 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

No one is gonna engage lol

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Doesn't matter. Even if it get only 3 or 4 upvotes still doesn't fucking matter. Just create a community and flood it with content.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

How about no, that sounds super depressing

Why would I do that? That doesn't get anyone what they want

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Pretty much what I'm doing at [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I'd call that a "webpage" though, one with an ill-fitting name. One person with a sandwich board and a megaphone yelling at a few passers by who at best smile, give a half-hearted thumbs up, then walk away.

To me, for it to live up to the name "community" that implies several people sharing stuff and a bit of reciprocity.

Of course that might take time, the first poster might be one of those proverbial people planting those trees that they're never going benefit fron the shade of. Theres no harm in just creating it making a few posts and leaving them there- it might become active eventually. But it could be never and it will inevitably take a lot longer if the platform only has a million users a day total than if it had a billion.

You can probably do some sort of critical-mass / chain-reaction / markov chain type model to get a handle on the chances of a niche community becoming active in small population. Like that 'Drake equation' for trying to stop people wasting resources on SETI.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know if someone is even upvoting your post and in a while replying to it. I consider it as engagement. Sorry, I am GenZ. So, I have different definition of online community.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

You'll be lucky to get a couple up votes.

It's like streaming with no viewers, only the activity you've doing isn't something fun you'd be doing anyways, eg gaming

[–] [email protected] 103 points 18 hours ago (20 children)

This is kind of bullshit. On a big platform, like Reddit, where there are orders of magnitude more users, the likelihood is that there are a good number of people interested in whatever niche topic you want. That's a draw for a lot of people. I left Reddit for Lemmy for good, but we're just not up to that kind of user base.

And it's not zero effort to get a community going and keep it active, especially with a small user base. It's perfectly reasonable for someone to want a place that discusses their niche interest without wanting to be responsible for running that place. It doesn't make them bad or lazy.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Going against the post's spirit, but...If you're not finding a community for your interests (or only finding abandoned/inactive ones), and don't want to create one (or try to get existing ones going), you're welcome over in [email protected]. Post about whatever, find likeminded folks, then if ya think there's enough of ya, you can make a separate community without it being one person posting into a void.

Also there's [email protected]. Similar vibes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

This probably has a much higher accuracy rate.

[–] [email protected] 152 points 20 hours ago (12 children)

As a man whose started 7 different communities I'd like to defend those people saying, if you don't immediately get a good response it starts feeling like screaming into the void.

I started a meme community [email protected] and it immediately took off and is doing well. On the other hand other my worst community got 2-3 people making one or two comments after a month of 2 posts everyday.

Meme communities do well. Niche communities require lots of people finding it and being active.

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