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[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 minutes ago

It rings true, and it follows the simple recognition that superheroes are cops. Superheroes are inherently reactive because cops, for the most part, are too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago

The greatest virtue is stability, and maintaining a similarity to how things are in the world we're familiar with.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Heroes treat symptoms, which maintains status quo. Villains change the material conditions that are the direct cause of the symptoms, which threatens the status quo.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I've discussed something similar with the lib I know, that many of America's rivals are literally minding their own business and we're the ones going out of our way to cause problems with them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago

History starts whenever a designated enemy does something. Nothing the US did before then matters.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago

ah but they're minding their own business in a very sinister and conniving way

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 hours ago

Status Quo propaganda at play, everything is okay and only is not okay when someone EVIL tries to destroy our flawed society, that's still the best we have anyway and you can't fix it. And if you try to fix it we will kill you, because you want to destroy it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

This is kind of tangential to traditional superhero media, but this fact is the point of tension superhero role-playing games.

Most other genres allow your protagonists to play a proactive or reactive role.

Your D&D adventuring party might be trying to stop an evil plot to end the world, but they could just as easily be searching for treasures in ancient ruins primarily for personal advancement.

Your Vampire the Whichever coterie might be trying to avoid the anger of any of the elder vampires in your city, but they could just as easily be scheming to overthrow and replace those elders.

Your circle of Exalted might be hunting down reincarnating demon kings when they pop up in your corner of the world, or they may be forging a bronze age empire with modern social norms because bronze age social norms completely suck.

Your Stars Without Numbers/Trinity Continuum psychic space people could be solving a futuristic murder or they could just as easily be exploring strange new worlds and deliberately making first contact with strange alien species.

If you're playing a superhero game, and you're playing heroes, what do you do? Foil the supervillains plots. If you have your own plots? You're the villain. (One possible counter example is an X-Men type setting with persecuted superhumans, but honestly you still have to diverge from source material a lot here- mutants should be organizing violent resistance groups but the ones who do are Evil Mutants)

It's very constraining and stops more sandbox type playstyles from being viable.

Obviously "people who want to change society are fundamentally bad" is a very corrosive message to marinate your populous in, and that's worse, but the rpg thing is also annoying.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

X-Men type setting

Remembering that bit in X-Men '97 where a justifiably pissed Rogue flew around destroying US military bases in revenge for spoiler stuff. Ofc Captain Amerikkka shows up and condescends to her about this going too far and how he's trying to "solve the problem through the proper channels". She then throws his shield over a fuckin mountain

I like it when the X-Men are allowed to be a force for change, and show that the status quo defenders are allowing atrocities to continue while they try to solve things at their preferred pace.

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I also happen to be playing a Pathfinder 2e campaign as a one piece style pirate crew fighting the world gov & capital. Much more fun than being a reactive force.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 37 minutes ago

That was a good scene. X-Men '97 rules.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

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