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I was explaining this to my daughter in quite simplified terms the other day- we evolved to taste sugar and enjoy it because finding a sweet edible plant meant we had a source of energy to help us hunt that day. Pretty useful if you're a hunter-gatherer.

So we seek out sugar. Now we can get it whenever we want it, in much more massive quantities than we are supposed to be processing. Most of us are addicted. I'm not an exception.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This is why I started making a lot of my own things. There are lots of options in the store for some items where you can get something without sugar that didn't need it. But then there's things like mayonnaise... Let me tell you that mayonnaise doesn't need any sugar and most brands that don't have sugar are like $11 for an 8oz jar. So I started making it myself at home. I also started making bread which later turned into a hobby, but now I can't eat the store bread because it's too sweet. I even make my own jam now and I know what you're gonna say "but jam is like... mostly sugar", but I'll have you know that jam tastes WAY better with half the sugar that it's typically made with. It's an art form to get it thick without adding more sugar, but it's worth it. Looking back, I know most people can't make all this shit and it's really sad that people can't buy things with less sugar at the store without paying an arm and a leg. It really says a lot about our society that this is true.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

What is this referring to Natural sugar or added sugar? Normally the yoghurt doesn't have added sugars beyond what were presswnt are in the milk originally.

For sauces you can easily read the labels and find which ones contain added sugar, at least in europ it's mandatory listing that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's added sugar - and yoplait/chobani add a lot of sugar. Yogurt with no added sugar has no more sugar than the milk used to make it does and it is mouth-puckeringly tangy. I make my own yogurt and you pretty much need honey with it to make it palatable with fruit (some people eat unsweetened yogurt without the honey... Those people scare me)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yoplait and Chobani definitely have extra added sugar.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Hmm that's super interesting.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Pretty bold to assume I'm not a hunter gatherer

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

You're perfectly right. And it's not just about energy, which there is a lot of in oils and proteins too. In nature, the sweetest things you'll get are different kinds of fruit - all packed full of vitamins, antioxidants, fiber and whatnot. And they're seasonal, so if you don't eat them right away, you're going to have to wait another year. So our taste makes us eat as much as we can. Sugar, of cours, is cheating.

(I just happen to be on my way to buy some pastries.)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Did you use the calories or the grams of sugar to determine the amount?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Check out how much sugar they put into frozen pizza. It's basically a sweet.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

i guarantee im not eating any of that sugar

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

Oh yeah - I've had to start watching my carbohydrate intake for health reasons and it's amazing just how much of that stuff is in processed food: for example "American Style Onion Rings (frozen)" from Lidl is over 40% carbohydrates - so basically the 450g pack of it has 180g of sugars and the kind of stuff your digestive system will turn into sugars.

One would think it would be only starchy foods (like bread, pasta, rice and such) and cakes and sweets that have lots of it, but no, most processed food is loaded with carbohydrates, often already directly as sugars, probably because the cheapest ingredient to bulk it up is flour.

Mind you, lots of natural or lightly processed foods have quite a bit of it - for example natural yoghurt with nothing added has maybe 6% of carbohydrates (tough yoghurt with fruit is way worse, since the adding of fruit is generally mixing it with fruit jam which has a lot of sugar) and most fruits have quite a bit of sugar (for example, common varieties of apple have about 14% of sugar - so your run of the mill apple comes with 1 spoonful of sugar included - and some varieties have a lot more) which is why there's this funny paradox that natural fruit juice has a lot more sugar in it than the same amount of Coca-Cola (since when you make the fruit juice you throw away the fiber and most of the protein leaving a much higher percentage of sugar than originally).

Generally, the kind of stuff that has almost no carbohydrates are veggies, like lettuce or broccoli.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Always check the labels for the ingredient list. The order of ingredients corresponds to how much of each ingredient there is.

When your "diet yogurt" has more sugar than milk ingredients, its not diet yogurt.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Always spend the extra buck or two for the better sauces. Actually I've started making a mean meat sauce as I found a fantastic place to get red bell peppers (for a dollar more but huge difference); their sweetmess easily offsets the acidity of the tomatoes (although better sauces use better tomatoes or cook longer). Also don't overcook your garlic, it's sweetest when it's less cooked.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Oh that's why yoplait is so fucking good

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