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I highly doubt the left will do anything uncivil. How can they win back the country? Is it too late?

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[–] scoobford 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So the way it looks now, Trump has won the presidency, and his allies will have the senate and house of representatives, and they already had the supreme court. The three branches of government will not be working as checks on each other's power, unless we get very lucky and the various factions that make up the GOP split. This is obviously very, very bad, but there are still some checks on presidential power.

  1. Trump's last term was a clusterfuck. Things may just be so disorganized that he struggles to actually get what he wants done.

  2. The states have limited power to defy the feds. While case law does state that federal law supercedes state law, that doesn't mean all States will immediately cooperate wholeheartedly. Obviously a court battle will eventually get to the supreme court, but that takes time and requires a single panel of judges to beat multiple states into line on each new policy.

  3. Governments do have a small amount of caution when it comes to their people. One thing the crazy conservatives had right this whole time was that fundamentally, nobody was ever going to come for their guns because nobody wants to force a confrontation with a bunch of armed lunatics. In the same way, they'll probably try to avoid massive riots and general strikes simply because it isn't worth the fight to whoever is responsible.

  4. Citizens can resist. Go to protests, donate to political advocacy organizations (the ACLU will have its work cut out for it), and for Christ's sake, go vote! Show up every year, just not every 4 years. Without the cooperation of congress, his power would be significantly curtailed.

  5. If nothing else, terms are limited. In 2 years we can swing congress. He isn't going to be able to pass a constitutional amendment to do what he likes before that. If we swing congress in two years, it will slow him down significantly, and then we can replace him in 2028. Hopefully people will actually keep showing up long enough after that to reverse all the damage he's likely to do in the next 4 years.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

you organize to pressure the burgeoise, as always, because they are the ones funding every winning political candidate.

except for americans fascism seem to be tolerable but god forbid you learn from marxism and socialism.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago

"Americans" did win their country back. We aren't welcome in it anymore.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Maybe Biden could pack the Supreme Court before leaving office.

It wouldn't be a great idea in the long run, but it'd potentially stop the entire system from functioning right now.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What do you mean by "win back"?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago

They're trying to get liberals banned by coaxing out suggestions of terrorism

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago

How do North Koreans win their country back?

How do Chinese win their country back?

How do Russians win their country back?

How do Hungarians win their country back?

How do Iranians win their country back?

How do South Koreans win their country back?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Americans HAVE their country, this is what they want, this is what they voted for. Stop treating Americans as if this is something pressed upon them. They chose this. Now they will live with the consequences.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Education, unfortunately those in the most need of it are out of an educational institution so they will only be fed on a diet of commercialism and disinformation.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

Some children really did get left behind

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago

Who knows. Apparently half my country is full of legitimately hateful people who just want to watch the people they don't like suffer.

How the fuck do we come back from that? Honestly, are we even worth redeeming?

For me, this is it. This is when America died. If you're still "proud" to be an American after this, you're brain-damaged.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago

Let the loud mouthed Marxists finally carry out the revolution they've been babbling about for the past 10 years. Oh wait...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Even if it was to get uncivil, the side with guns in now in charge

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We have guns on the left, too. We just aren't as masturbatory about them.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They're notoriously easy to get.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not when the past 50 years have been so it's harder and harder for the people the current rulers don't like don't get guns

Literally the prison system was made so those who object now legally can't buy guns

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

Nah, prison system was made to keep slavery legal, disenfranchisement is just a bonus.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They don't. It was never their country to begin with, clearly.

The majority of the U.S. has been racist, bigoted, misogynists from the beginning. Hell, the entire electoral college system that just fucked everyone over is a compromise that was put into place because a bunch of rich white landowners in the Antebellum south couldn't stand the idea of freed black men's votes having as much power as theirs. So they immediately rigged the system to keep them in control of who gets power because you better believe no black man was ever going to be an elector.

That is who your country is. There was a brief period from the 60s to the 80s where it became declasse to be an asshole, and so they mostly shut up during that time when they were in public, and then went home and took out their frustration by beating their wives and kids.

Then along came the modern republican party, who began to tear down that cloak of respectability, and it emboldened all of those wife beating shit-heads to say "Hey...we can be assholes again...go us."

This is your America. It always has been. I'm sorry if that hurts. I really am. But right now I'm also goddamned angry at your country on behalf of my country and all the others that have to be caught in the blast.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

By watering the tree of liberty?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

I think that first you have to start by admitting two things:

  1. Americans did win their/your election
  2. Americans have l9st faith in their democratic institutions

After that, you can look at why the Democratic parties fail to appeal to Americans, and try to reform them.

If you go outside of democracy to gain democracy, then you probably lose what's left of your democracy.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We engage in democracy.

Harris was a terrible candidate who was forced into the race. I was hoping she could pull it off but it's pretty clear that what we needed was for Biden to step down before the primary so that we could have a real election.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Win it back from who?

Other Americans who made this choice know who Trump is and thats what they want.

The Rich have always owned this country. No one is taking anything from them. Its illegal to try.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I majority of Americans think thats what theyve just done.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Most Americans like and support Trump. That IS America.

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