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Classic assumption that "the left" doesn't love this country.
this post was submitted on 10 Nov 2024
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Love that phrase…”love this country”.
What does it even mean? The citizens? The flag? The physical land and soil that encompasses “this country”? Love the government? If so, what about the government do you love? The governments policies? Laws? The constitution? The actual government employees? Which ones? The president? A combination? How is the combination divided?
Also, depending on the answer to the above, why? Because you were born here? You think it’s better than other countries? How are you defining “better”?
Stupid phrase imo.
For me loving a country is a natural love of home. It's a sentimental attachment. I want my country to be a nice place the way I want my home to be a nice place. I want to feel the pride of both. If my kitchen stinks because of spoiled food and piles of dirty dishes I don't feel right. Same when my country stinks of poverty, homelessness, sick people who can't afford cures, etc. I want my home to be better than that. Recognizing faults doesn't mean someone doesn't love their country. it means they're honest.
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A friend who worked in D.C. for a while clued me in to the Rosetta Stone of understanding the right-wing mentality: It all flows from a deep, abiding self-hatred. They need constant reassurance that they are good people, because they don't really believe it.
Furthermore, they literally need an untermenschen (the poor, the homeless, the sick) to be better than, so their own success proves that they are good.
It's obvious when you look at it this way: America must axiomatically be all good, because they are Americans; with your criticism, are you saying they're not good?
I spent a lot of formative years in an extremely rural area. People would take a lot of their time running down the local area, mocking the state of the school we went to, how there was nothing to do, and so on.
But, I noticed two things - first of all, if anyone talked about moving somewhere else in the country, or to a big city, these same people would express shock and outrage and say overtly racist things like "but that's where all the nKLANGers are!". Also, few of them had actually went anywhere else - some of them had never left the county, few left the state, and very rare was it that someone had left the country.
Secondly, if the topic of the greatness of this country came up, it was the bestest evar, at everything, than any other! I sometimes would ask these people how they would even know, since, in some cases, they've seen almost none of this country and they have never been to any other, and they thought the area they lived in was kind of a shithole?
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It’s some damn good dirt
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Whenever I’m driving through highways, hiking at the Adirondacks, walking around nyc, visiting my friends in LA, I’m always in the awe of this country. Fuck these people who think we don’t “love” this country.
Patriotic lefty marine corps veteran here, I’m so sick of the right wingers highjacking the word patriot. You are exactly correct in calling out the difference between nationalism and patriotism. I love this country and I hurt so much seeing what it has become over the last 20-30 years.
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In all fairness it's only an assumption of those who confused Nationalism with Patriotism.
Patriotism (what can I do for my country) fits naturally with Leftwing principles (such as "The greatest good for the greatest number") whilst Nationalism (what can I get from being born were I was born) fits naturally with Rightwing principles (such as "What's in it for me?")
We tend to have strong mixed feelings on it in my experience. It’s got a lot of bad. Some of it is impossible to remove, but it’s also got a ton of good. And yeah the right doesn’t understand that when we criticize this country we’re trying to make it better. I want America to be somewhere I can be proud of. I want people to think positive things when they think of Americans. We could be fucking awesome. And in some ways we have been. I want us to be the country that a refugee from Iran I met a decade ago saw us as. I want us to see other countries doing smart things like universal healthcare and the metric system and join in because this is America and we deserve to do things the best we can.
Only 1/4, apparently
Fun fact, if she renewed that visa with her plans to go to school in Florida, but then stayed there... She's ineligible to ever become a citizen because she lied to get a visa.
So US has 1/4 of China population and can't compete economically.
World is in a sharp fertility crisis.
U get free humans coming to your country to help u with that economic problem.
U should use those people, dumbest thing u can do is deport them and waste tons of money in the process.
U want cheaper houses - that's how u get cheaper houses ffs
Her work ethic is absolutely mute.
What? Did you say something?
Afraid of they spelled it right someone would think they were insulting her by calling her a cow. Moo.
I literally couldn't see any other thing in the text. I bet the colombian girlfriend with the industrial engineering knowledge knows the difference between mute and moot, but the maga mouthbreather of course was born here, so it's him we get to keep...
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These fucking people
It would be somewhat understandable if they were actually ideologically consistent..
But watch that person bend over backwards to say why Elon musk (or Melania trump) shouldn't be kicked out of the country, or have his citizenship revoked, after it came out he was doing the exact same "illegal immigrant" thing.
Colombia is probably going to be safer in 4 years.
Maybe she can instead stay in the new complexes for migrants. And wonder if deportation is actually the plan when the trains arrive because maybe her education included gas chambers.
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Look at the name, it is a bot.
The second username is just a suggested Reddit username, I have one on my Reddit account because I was too lazy to think of an original name. It doesn't mean you're a bot.
And the first username looks like it belongs to somebody who owns a 2017 Subaru Impreza.
Honestly, what’s worse, that someone has so little empathy that they’ll just tell some innocent person that they should be separated from their loved ones because they didn’t say the right magic words as they went over the imaginary line, or that someone would invest the time and energy into creating software to do so automatically
These troll bots are here on Lemmy too. Same language. Bootlickers enabled by the internet. Do not feed them.
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Did he basically substitute his Columbian girlfriend for the situation Mush was in?
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Have you ever noticed that 99% of the time the point of a post is to evoke an emotional response?
The same could be said of most songs, poetry, fiction.
Someday we will invent a way to convey emotions without that intermediate step. That will be impressive.
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are we sure this is a "leopards ate my face" and not a "I am going to challenge their worldview"?
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