Yes. And they know this and they are actively dividing us and driving us apart and to each other’s throats. Until people realize the whole system is stacked against them we will be stuck like this. As long as we consume their media and stay zombies, it’s only going to get worse and more vitriolic.
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My easy to understand guide.
- Wait for the GOP to fuck up, again. And for discontent to rise in the swing voters
- Recruit swing voters to ground level activism
- Flip the political monopoly board, aggressively.
The enemy is the billionaire financial backers of both parties.
- Cope with the cruelest, most corrupt supreme court ever, for the next 50 years.
I was thinking today we're not far from having a new Fugitive Slave Act, only with migrants. At this point, I don't think we can really say anything is off the table. I don't know any check or balance that isn't currently compromised or 1 executive order from elimination.
Pack it with more Judges.
That's part of step 4-infinity of potentially fixing this shit. Impeachment of corrupt federal judges top down (I wish for imprisonment as well but I know better) or at least packing in judges who follow basic legal precedent and reasonable constitutional interpretations.
It's cute that you think elections will still be a thing in four years.
Not saying you're wrong or even that you shouldn't feel that way but please don't antagonize people who are suggesting doing something instead of just giving up.
I realize it's likely something said in jest, but Jan6 did give a blueprint for what to do, if they don't.
Why wouldn't they?
If you're honestly asking that, you haven't been paying attention.
Trump has openly said he would be a dictator on day one of his presidency. He told American Christians that they won't have to worry about voting again, and that he'd take care of all that. Republicans control the house, the senate, the presidency, and the supreme court. There is no one to appeal to when he tries (and he WILL try) to take complete control. And legal challenges will be brought before the SCOTUS, who will rule in his favour.
Freedom will not win by following the old rules. Those rules are gone. They were killed by Trump and his MAGA mob.
Complete control? Haha oh man, in 4 years you'll laugh about this
If someone tells you of the power they will take, believe them.
Righty-o
I sure as heck hope so, assuming I'm not dead from Trump's policies and the MAGA laws that get passed.
You'll be fine!
Except for your kidneys tho. You really need to stop drinking coffee
The whole article is about how working within the system like that has been a complete failure.
I think voting might've been the best option, but that's a bit too late now
I think this kind of work is necessary regardless of what happens. Join an organization and start building alternative systems and structures and try to advocate for policy changes that will support these alternatives. Here are some links to leftist organizations doing some of that work. You can also look into starting or joining cooperatives and/or land trusts in your area as some ideas to get started.
https://www.iww.org/ https://frso.org/about/ https://pslweb.org/program/ https://www.dsausa.org/ https://www.cpusa.org/
An article about how we all need to come together opens with a salvo against all of their allies. Beyond parody
When those "allies" have replicated Republican border policies, Republican homelessness policies, Republican oil policies, and Republican Middle East policies, how "allied" are they?
Or leaving.
Immigration is hard for most people.
I read people here thinking of hiring a service to move all their stuff to other country
If that's what you guys think of immigration, then yeah, it will be hard. The harder way is worst tho haha
At the same time, I'm tired of people assuming that everyone who wants to emigrate is entirely clueless.
Most people who speak about wanting to emigrate are not I assume, but most people who want to just "move countries" seem to be.
I've moved around across Europe, which should be "seamless and easy", as soon as I move in I can vote, no immigration process no nothing.
Let me tell you how the Benelux works nowadays. You have to get a job before you move. Which seems reasonable as long as you don't see that companies won't even hire locals of a different culture nowadays, much less people who'd have to move from another EU country. Outside the EU? At best no answer, some recruiters will call you names.
Then the rental market. There are going to be like 20 apartments for rent, mostly okay, for around 40% of what you get paid after taxes. You have to schedule a viewing, you have to attend personally. There are going to be around 40 people to one apartment, and you will almost never get chosen. Would you pay more than the locals? Tough luck, that's illegal, prices are capped. So you keep spending money to go to viewings you will most certainly not get a place at.
Even if you had some idea of what immigrating to the EU meant five years ago, it's outdated, it got way worse, and will get worse.
All you have to do is upend your entire life.
Yep. And if not now, when?
Leaving, unfortunately, just gives you less power. The US plays in a global sandbox.
Disagree. If my life is worth anything, it's making money for other assholes, and I refuse to contribute to what these assholes happen to be doing.
Fuck everything about that if I have choice.
Anyone else out there on the fence and wondering what to do, just leave.
Ignore all these people telling you to fight. This is a stone cold done deal unless there is military intervention.
Yeah... I'm not convinced. After this election, I think the answer is less "it takes everyone" or "it takes all kinds" and more "here's evidence there are quite a lot of people we could do without".
Edit: and a lot of the people we can do without are ostensibly lefties. You want to call maga folks stupid for being single issue voters, then you can't be a single issue "conscious objector". I hope if you didn't vote for Harris you get the rough side of the next two years for being a magnum toolbag.
Edit 2: all you .ml shitbirds can also lick an outlet as far as I'm concerned
But most of us voted for him.