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[–] [email protected] 68 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If surviving humans lost 50% of their gut bacteria, that means that those snapped away left 50% of their gut bacteria behind.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

More gut bacteria for the rest of us, that's what I say!

[–] [email protected] 47 points 5 days ago (10 children)

That's not how it worked. He killed 50% of gut bacteria by killing 50% of the hosts.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 5 days ago (1 children)

or 100% of the 50% that are destroyed are the gut bacteria in the humans etc that got snapped

[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The alternative is even more disturbing: snapped humans leave behind a cloud of poopy gut microbes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

The other 50% of humanity then dies of salmonella and dysentery

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Fewer than 50% of the cells in "your body" contain your own DNA.

There are many more bacteria, since they are much much smaller than "your own" eukaryotic cells.

Where you end and your "gut flora" begin and end is not as clear as you might first believe.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 days ago (1 children)

In reality, since it was more random, some poor soul would have their whole biomes destroyed, and just be rekd.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 days ago (2 children)

That would be incredibly unlikely. Due to the huge number of gut microbes, the chance to even lose 5% off of the median, even with billions of trials, is functionally zero.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Maybe in your gut biome, but mine is just two or three really, really large bacteria

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Have you ever been prescribed a wolf?

https://xkcd.com/1471/

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

So, what are their names?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

What are their names, and do they bite?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

To expand a little:

For a much smaller sample size of just 1 million, the probability to lose just 1% off of the median is basically zero.

WolframAlpha doesn't even bother to calculate the exact result and just rounds it:

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=P%5B490000+%3C+X+%3C+510000%5D+for+X%7EB%281000000%2C0.5%29

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The snap was always the dumbest part of the entire avenger series. Let's say for example, you have a bunch of deer that are eating the forest bare, so you let hunters kill half of them... Then what happens next? You have the exact same problem in a few years. The snap solves nothing.

Also if you can snap your fingers and do this, why can't you snap your fingers and make twice the food supply?

The snap is just stupid, even in a world made-up physics-defying superheroes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

To be fair, it made slightly more sense in the comics, though still batshit. In the comics there was no noble purpose like they tried to shoehorn in for the MCU. IIRC, Thanos was literally doing it to impressed Death (the cosmic entity) to gain her affection.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

makes more sense for sure

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's stupid only because they try to rationalize it.

Comics Thanos just wants to commit genocide so his crush notices him. That's also stupid, but he's a big purple space alien so what can you expect? Using a magic space glove powered by stardust and wishfish to kill half of all life as an incredible gesture of his devotion to Death makes internal sense.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

His crush is literally Death, so it kinda makes sense that genocide would be the way to get her attention.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Even worse than that. 50% of all life dies, right? That's 50% of the plants too. If you know anything about food chains, taking 50% of everything leaves the top of the chain massively overloaded.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Losing 50% of your gut bioma will be fixed in an hour or two.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

Yeah, yeast doubling rate is around 90 mins in optimal conditions, I would assume the rest of the microbes in your gut would have a very similar rate and they would be well adapted to those conditions.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

he would have to snap his fingers infinitely many times to kill everyone so he is not that powerful

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (10 children)

That’s an interesting question as to whether the infinity gauntlet rounds down.

Like, if there were 3 survivors of a species and thanos snapped the universe, does the gauntlet round up to 2 survivors, or down to one?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I thought it was just an instantaneous, every living thing has a 50/50 chance of living or dying. No rounding, no species specific exceptions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

So that means that since bacteria and the like outnumber us by orders of magnitude, statistically speaking, multicellular life would be wiped out completely.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

No, they reproduce pretty quickly. Wipe out 50 % of the bacteria in your body, and they will recover in a few hours.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

That's not how probabilities work. Every lifeform flips a coin. It doesn't matter what everyone else got, you still have a 50/50 chance.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but I thought about this I realized that whenever somebody vanished from the snap it would leave behind a slurry of gut microbes and a (different looking) dust from all of the skin mites, microbes, and stuff that just live all over the human body. Meaning the aftermath would have been even messier.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Maybe that's exactly what the dust was.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Then it should have been goopier lol

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

It's bullshit space magic, it probably considers what Thanos thinks of as life. Why it snapped the birds is a different plot hole altogether, because it means he snapped away half the food, too.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

So will bacteriophages and viruses be snapped as well? Does it mean that scientists can utilize the Thanos snap to determine for good whether viruses are alive?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

The snap must take intention into account, like a genie, and not the literal wording of the wish, like a monkey's paw, because otherwise everyone in the universe would have just been cut in half.

But also: what if Thanos himself got snapped out, along with the power glove (because for some reason it turned their clothes into dust, too)? The heroes would have been fucked, right? It's been a minute since I saw the movies but IIRC, they used the time stone to go back in time. But what if the stone was gone because it was part of Thanos' attire? He himself used the stones to destroy the stones, so there is probably a timeline where he got snapped away with everyone else, destroying the stones in the process.

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