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[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Or there needs to be an anti-establishment party, since the Democrats can never be one.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

They are the establishment. Why would they ever change? They would rather Trump win, than their easy paychecks be disrupted. You are never going to get a democrat to care about people.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 hours ago

well just in time for the supreme-court-approved executions of the anti-establishment politicians. imagine not getting this after Bernie had massive support despite all the efforts of the Democratic party, and after the orange cunt winning just by paying lip service to being anti-establishment...

seriously, that's all you needed to do. not actually do anything, not help anybody. just fucking lie and pretend you give a shit about people grievances about being crushed by the system.

you couldn't even clear that bar on the fucking ground, and lost to a cunt who's known for firing people, not paying for anything, and shitting on a gold toilet. because you're physically incapable of criticizing systemic oppression.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Going further right didn't help, now we need to go as left as possible

Radical ideas like Universal healthcare, paid maternity leave, free child care, taxing the rich.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 11 hours ago

Radical ideas the rest of the 1st world had had for 50 years and successfully implemented.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Wow, if only there had been an anti establishment candidate running for president as a democrat in 2016... too bad...

[–] [email protected] 32 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Just like GOP refugees created the Tea Party, we need to rally around the greatest symbol of the French Revolution, and build a Guillotine Party.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

Let's call it the Rule of Law Party. One law for all of us. An end to elite impunity.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

What?

They are the establishment.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Thus the call to become something else; become being the operative word, meaning to change from what they currently are.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I fear it's too late. Unless the party can be taken by force it won't be enough and we only have 4 years. If dems didn't snub Bernie this all probably wouldn't have happened. Our choices used to be two flavors of corporate fascism, now it's far right vs corporate. Dems are better on social issues, but it's not enough.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Dems are clearly better on economic issues as well. Not nearly good enough, but better. The problem is that they will only go so far, and they won't talk about it, out of fear of angering their wealthy patrons.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Well, why don’t you tell your Republican friends and families that the GOP dosent do shit for them?

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 15 hours ago (65 children)

Or maybe they should just leave the Democratic party and start a new progressive party? We have less than 4 years, but that's also the most time we'll ever have.

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