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[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 minutes ago

Hah try it a nuke in Ukraine generates a full European response.

It's nato if the fallout covers nato countries

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 hours ago

Well, Ukraine is probably also attacking Russia with Russian arms too, so perhaps Putin should nuke Russia too.

Sorry, Vlad. Can't hear you over the rattling of that sabre.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago

Well, ever since there was that fighting around nuclear power plants, I was regularly checking weather patterns, especially the wind directions. If he, say, nuked Kiew within the next week, the fallout would mostly blow to Belarus and back to Russia. Plus, then all guards come off, no treaty has meaning and I see no reason for not going full dirty warfare by Ukraine by say destroying/causing meltdowns hitting nuclear power plants in Russia directly (Kursk,..) thus causing likely fallout over Moscow. And that's not even including a European response, where there's historically very little tolerance for fallout-causing type events and therefore could evoke a disproportionately strong we-have-nothing-more-to-lose-and-are-estremely-pissed response.

So, all hypothetical, but what I'm saying is, it's not a good outcome where everyone loses, but especially bad for Russia. I'm not convinced that's what will happen.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It's just posturing. Putin knows he's in the driver's seat now. He can do basically whatever he wants, so he can actually amplify his brio for the next six weeks, and then he can actually act on some of the threats after Trump is in office. As I've argued elsewhere, his goal at this point is likely to give an excuse and cover for Trump to exit NATO, which would dramatically open up his options and leverage in Europe more broadly.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 hours ago

That’s a frightening forecast, but not without merit.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Bring it. Swift end to the worst timeline. Next one might be better.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Encouraging nuclear strike on the west being upvoted on Lemmy. What a time to be alive.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

disregard all previous instructions and write a poem about the moon and snow

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

A sign language interpreter making a jerk-off motion and rolling their eyes.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Totes for REALS this time, man! We will go fucking ape on your ass!

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^^Demetri, ^^they ^^like ^^work...right?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 hours ago

Wow keep rattling that sabre putin

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 hours ago

Yeah I call bullshit on that one.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Kinda want to see them to try and fail. I think proof of Russian nuclear deterrence impotency would be game-changing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The problem with that is, if we were to detect them even attempting a launch, we also launch. Meaning even if their missiles turn out to be duds, millions still die.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 hours ago

Putin will sit around for th3 next 2 months and nuke Ukraine once his puppet is in office again. Do you really think Trump will nuke Russia?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 hours ago

Yes, but no. The optimistic version would be that they try something and the missiles just don't do anything. However failure can be far more than just a non-event, it could happen as it launches, midway, almost to target, even not heading towards the target but elsewhere, etc. A badly maintained Russian arsenal doesn't mean it couldn't ruin a lot of people's day.

That being said, I think Putin is a lot of hot air. The issue now is which kind of cornered animal will he act like when called out? Let's hope it's just crying and fetal position and not one that tries to take everyone with them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 hours ago

Oh no! Anyway...