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    submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
     
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    [–] [email protected] 1 points 39 minutes ago

    There is no way Gentoo is that low.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 51 minutes ago (1 children)

    Isn't debloated windows just a regular windows install after running https://github.com/Sycnex/Windows10Debloater ? Is there more to it?

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 22 minutes ago

    I prefer LTSC and Raphire's debloat script https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat and I wouldn't say it's onerous. A nit-picky peeve with ad-hoc Windows installs is that setting the keyboard input for the installer doesn't define the default, and that Windows 11 has gone backwards in terms of setting up default user profile settings, much more single user focused.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

    Windows 11 without a Microsoft-Account = terminal required. Linux Mint = terminal not required.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

    brother, 99% of users will never even consider installing their own os. the issue isn't that Linux is hard to install, the issue is that pretty much anyone brave enough to even mess with their operating system is either already on Linux, a boomer, or trapped by professional software that isn't available on Linux (that's me, a videographer)

    the only way Linux is breaking out of extreme obscurity is if it starts coming pre-installed on commercially available and desirable hardware. the steam deck did more for Linux in a single product launch than the entire decade of combined efforts before that. before the deck i would have said it was simply never going to happen, but who knows. maybe it'll be up to eccentric billionaires that never went public with their companies to push the Linux future we all want.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

    The Steak Deck motivated me to finally make the jump to Linux. Until people can buy a Linux PC at the local electronics store, Linux will always be in a niche. And that's not happening any time soon because of anti-competitive practices by Microsoft.

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

    Um... My grandma installed Windows 11 on her computer and then ran a simple script I gave her after. You guys are delusional.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago

    oh damn that sucks, thats why you dont click suspicious links

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 12 hours ago

    Was it a script to install your own crypto miner?

    [–] [email protected] 39 points 20 hours ago (10 children)

    would love to see some actual market research on this. sit down a sample of users, have them install then use some OSs. interview them on their experience. rather than yknow making up data

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago

    well people dont actually install OSs

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago

    Even better if made with multiple ussr groups, including tech-savy and people who never installed an os before, as well as people already used to windows and linux.

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    [–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (4 children)

    I want to buy a Framework laptop soon. I have the option to choose which Linux distro is best for me and load that on.

    Any suggestions?

    [–] Honytawk 1 points 1 hour ago

    Just install Windows 11

    spoilerThis is a spoof on all the "Just install Linux" answers that make no sense.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

    Transitioning from Windows to Linux Mint was effortless for me, everything worked out of the box and i haven't typed a line of code yet. All i've had to to do is install Diodon to get the clipboard history feature.

    However all i've done with it is internet and office work, basic stuff. No gaming, no video editing, no 3D animation or any such. I think if you have a mature and complicated creative workflow it's totally possible that you'll struggle to move to Linux

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

    What are you intending to do with your laptop?

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

    System76 has their own OS. You should start there and move on if you wanted to.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

    PopOS! Is not as user friendly as it seems to linux veterans.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

    Correct, horse battery staple! (Puns) I have had issues with it occasionally when I tried but it is a start.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

    I usually suggest linux mint with cinnamon desktop for casual users or Fedora with KDE Plasma for power users .

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

    I still use Mint. Even though I'm having problems lately with mounting external drives. I mained Elementary OS for a while but something about it seemed....shallow.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

    External over USB or network?

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

    Unless you install Linux mint with multiple displays. Holy 1 sec flickering sideways displays Batman. I don’t remember what I did exactly to fix but probably single display until drivers are all installed.

    [–] padge 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

    Omg please tell me when you do, I'm running Mint on my laptop but want to migrate my desktop over soon which has multiple displays

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

    I’m pretty sure that was the fix. Start the installation with a normal single monitor. Once the OS is installed, run update manager to download and install updates. This would include GPU drivers. My second monitor is in portrait mode which I think was the culprit.

    [–] rumba 1 points 12 hours ago

    This is 100% true, but the chart inverts when you have a problem you're trying to fix.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

    Mint was super easy. I just had to scratch my head for two days trying to figure out why the keyboard didn't work after coming out of suspend. Had something to do with it being in a USB 3.0 port. Once I plugged it into a 2.0-port it worked.

    [–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Install windows, run debloat powershell script. Done.

    Microsoft give no shortage of things to complain about with needing to exaggerate.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

    Or just run Tiny11.

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    [–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

    The debate has never been so intense! It might not be the Year of the Linux Desktop, but that's certainly a great one

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

    Installing regular Windows 10/11 is definitely more than twice as painful than installing Debian 12.

    Once, I was trying to install Windows 10 and wasted an entire day! The installation would systematically fail at the beginning of the installation with a BS error message that doesn't give any hint about what's going wrong. In the end it just didn't like USB3 as an installation media! I reflashed it to a USB2 and it worked, but OMG was it super slow ! It took literally hours to install !!!

    Debian, even as a noobie, you'll go from flashing your ISO to a booted system within an hour. If you've done it once before, you will get it done in 20 minutes.

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