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[–] [email protected] 88 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've seen an expert say that due to the pattern of the spread it's unlikely that it is a newly mutated illness, and more likely that it is something we already know but is untypical for this region so they havent identified it yet

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I certainly hope so.

Hey, God? It’s me, Aeron. Please wait until the current pandemic has come to a complete stop before starting another one.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Jesus. All sources state that the majority of the deaths were people 16-18 years of age. This is extremely lethal with a 21%-60% fatality rate, even if the numbers are all over the place. Covid has about a 3% fatality rate, for comparison.

NY Post has the death toll at 179 with 300 infected.

https://nypost.com/2024/12/04/us-news/a-mystery-disease-has-killed-179-mostly-teenagers-in-the-democratic-republic-of-the-congo/

Reuters splits the difference with 143 dead.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/unknown-disease-kills-143-southwest-congo-local-authorities-say-2024-12-03/

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wouldn't really take anything down as fact at the moment. The region is a healthcare desert that has a pretty bad history of malnourishment, so even if what the reports say is true, it's not something that would be applicable to other parts of the world.

From the couple articles that I've read about, there's a lot of stuff being reported that's probably not coming from a reliable source.

Most are saying it's some kind of flu-like symptoms, and the disease is unknown, but the WHO director in the area has said they won't have any more information for the next 48 hours because they haven't been able to test yet.

There's also reports of deaths from pulmonary complications, but also reports of deaths from lack of blood transfusions..... Not sure why someone would require a blood transfusion for flu-like symptoms, so my guess is there's not a lot of reliable reporting coming out ATM.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago

I mean the DRC has a huge population of child slaves that mine cobalt. Bad living conditions and inadequate healthcare are the perfect storm to spread disease

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Your reuters link says 2024-12-03 and nyt link says, 2024-12-04 which explains why nyt has a higher number.

edit: nypost not nyt

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yes, the infection rate is reported as climbing, but the number of fatalities varies greatly.

300/179 in the NY Post vs 376/79 in the posted article

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That mortality rate would limit its spread, wouldn't it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yes, it would. Covid got around because of its long dormant period and high transmissibility. It's only gotten less lethal over time as it's mutated. Turns out killing your host is a poor reproductive strategy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Capitalists should take note

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago

I read it as Dr. Congo first

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As a note, everything has flu like symptoms which are all symptoms of the human body detecting an infection and the immunoresponse trying a battery of general remedies.

The lung and nose stuff can indicate a coronavirus or other airborne infection, but also can indicate an allergy or other trigger of the anti-dust immune systems.

Also influenza- and cold-viruses commonly have atypical symptoms (spikey fever, tinnitus, tea tastes funny, midnight insomnia, etc.) In San Francisco we'd often have multiple bugs being passed around, and signature symptoms would help indicate what you got.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yes and no? H5N1 at least in the US has been showing up as conjunctivitis in humans, which is a hell of a lot better than typical upper respiratory symptoms…

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Taking bets on whether Trumpo learned anything during his last pandemic

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago

What he learned is that he has to outlaw testing for the disease from the start if he doesn't want any reports showing how many people are dying from it.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago

He made RFK the Secretary of Health.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Didn't he promise to re-dissolve the infectious disease working group (or whatever it was called), like he did before covid.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] nailingjello 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wonder if pangolin are native to the Congo area.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

They're getting revenge for all of the poaching.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Does this mean go out and buy toilet paper?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

It should be part of your emergency supplies, at this point. Just keep an extra slab somewhere and rotate stock. It doesn't go bad.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

It's fine, I still have hundreds of packs left from last time.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

Why contain it? S'cool.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Does anyone else see a vague resemblance to goatse in the map, or is it just my decades of being poisoned by the Internet?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think that’s mostly the poison talking

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Naw, look at that play button. You don't see it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

its okay, set it free.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"Here we go again" makes sense by itself, no need to add "rule" like a parrot.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

It's just the rule