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[–] [email protected] 73 points 10 hours ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah that's the shocking point for me

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'm of two minds about it. Half the time, I want to build a statue of Luigi

The other half of the time, I'm feeling the Tolkien quote, "many that live deserve death, and many that die deserve life. Will you give it to them?"

In other words, at no point do I feel that Brian Robert Thompson didn't objectively deserve to die. He is objectively doing more good for the world as worm food than he did as a living man. My only question is on the ethics of anyone actually killing him. On one hand, no one should have a right to make that call on their own. On the other, it's not like he was ever going to face justice any other way.

I wonder if this dilemma is reflected in this poll. You can believe that killing the CEO was unacceptable, while also believing he absolutely deserved it.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

If this trend continues, by 2073 100% of youth will completely agree with it.

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[–] [email protected] 168 points 13 hours ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

I'm genuinely shocked... Maybe they didn't want to go on record saying it because they were concerned about backlash.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

People aren't exactly gonna tell a random stranger and probable Fed that they support murder even if it's really based

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It's not illegal to say you believe Brian Robert Thompson deserved to die. Hell, you could, perfectly legally, file paperwork to hold a parade in Luigi's honor, right through the heart of DC. It's illegal to make death threats, but it's perfectly legal to express support for someone being killed.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

With the incoming administration, I don't want to be on record as saying that.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Why not? Feds support murder, certainly. Heck, the Constitution supports murder: it establishes an Army.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 12 hours ago

after the Nov 5th display of oligarch worshipping, maybe not as surprising it isn't higher

[–] [email protected] 14 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Shit was rigged, you know they made the question something insane to get more people to not agree with the killing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Link to study

Do you think the actions of the killer of the United Healthcare CEO are acceptable or unacceptable?

I've seen worse phrasing for survey questions.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly. The question should have been, "did the CEO deserve to die?" It was likely, "was the killing acceptable?" It's perfectly possible to believe the bastard had it coming without thinking one person has the right to be judge, jury, and executioner.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

It's shocking in the sense young people are the ones least effected by our shit Healthcare system since they tend to be the most healthy, and have less interaction with it.

You'd expect the middle aged and older with chronic illnesses would be the most supportive of Luigi, but they have Stockholm syndrome from living under this shitty system their whole life. This is also reinforced by the cable news they watch telling them how tragic it was that a man with a wife and kids was murdered.

Meanwhile, young people are just laughing at memes and tiktoks of how hot and based he is.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It’s not shocking if you’ve had to deal with any sort of healthcare in this god forsaken shithole of a country.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Most young voters haven't had to deal with it yet.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

They have parents who have.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 13 hours ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 41 points 13 hours ago (12 children)

When I was young, I wouldn't have found it acceptable. It doesn't matter how badly you're treated, you need to find a peaceful way to resist. It's something drilled into my and my peers' skulls since I can remember.

After seeing little progress (but mostly worsening) with polite requests and peaceful protests, I really can't figure out how it can be unacceptable.

A lot of those kids probably just haven't gained that wisdom yet.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 13 hours ago

For one thing, you can sympathize but not find it acceptable.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The fact that politicians and executives consider this a “shock” is part of the problem.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I've heard a saying that if you do anything enough, it becomes normal.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago

Yeah, good habits n such are important to cultivate until they're second-nature.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 hours ago

Americans have been trained to wish on the CEO the negative things that those CEOs have caused.

Game CEO cancels or ruins an anticipated game? Wish on to them that something they value gets canceled.

Car company CEO makes cars more expensive? Wish upon them financial trouble.

Social media CEO invades your privacy? Wish on them someone to track their plane wherever it flies.

But there exists a subset of companies where death is the outcome of a bad CEO, and the end consequence of encouraging an eye for an eye is what we just saw. Perhaps if a company can decide whether you live or die, the government should play some role in it. Then at least voters will at least have a stake in the governance.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I doubt I’m "young" but I find it acceptable. I’m only shocked it doesn’t happen more. These people making insane amounts of money off the suffering of the working class have been getting away with too much for too long.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 13 hours ago

They make money by murdering people. Someone has to hold them to account since our justice system, which is bought and paid for by these same scumbags, surely won't.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

The generation whose future was stolen by greedy, sociopathic billionaires doesn’t care if they get killed. Fetch my fainting couch!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Stolen? The assholes are giving it to them.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

As a millennial, I’ve accepted (disgruntled) that I won’t buy a house. The Gen-Z kids can’t even buy a car. If any Gen-Z need donations to their defense fund, you can always count on me.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 13 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 16 points 12 hours ago

Should be higher.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 13 hours ago

This old voter finds it acceptable. Not a problem. It's a good start.

[–] treadful 10 points 12 hours ago

Some of us are perfectly capable of having many conflicting opinions on the subject.

Don't know how anyone could really boil this whole thing down to a nice boolean opinion.

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