A space for masculine folks to talk about living under patriarchy.
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*The Will to Change: Men, Masculinity, and Love by Bell Hooks
Honestly, I'm here for it. The biphobic stuff I would hear from women kept me in the closet for a long time
In my youth I used to think I could assimilate as a straight, but apparently by merely having boundaries and trusting my danger sense, I've never dated one
I don't know how much Twitter is even representative of the general public at this point. Surely most of the non-homophobic women on it switched to Bluesky and shit by now.
On a similar note, in the BDSM community switch straight or bi men tend to face a similar issue with straight women (both dom and sub) not wanting a man who switches
Do you mean a man who also bottoms? Or a man who also subs? Also, are you saying that dom top straight women don't want a man who also tops? Is it always an emasculation/degredation thing they don't like or is it something else?
Wait, that doesn't make sense? 37% of women would date a man who has had sex with another man, but 19% would date a bisexual person? So at least 18% of women would date a straight, gay, or non-bisexual pan man who has had sex with other men just as long as he isn't bi?
it doesn't count if you say "no homo" 
"Yeah my bf fucked another guy, but not in a gay way. Guy on guy is hot as long as I don't have to think of it as a long-term thing."
They're different surveys. The 63% is from a Glamour survey of 1000 women who subscribe to the magazine. The 19% is from South Florida Gay News, but the link wouldn't load for me so idk who they surveyed exactly.
South Florida Gay News better not have surveyed their own audience because I would be very shocked to see that 19% figure came from the LGBTQ community itself.
at least some of this might be confused by asking lesbians if theyd date a bi man
Yeah but it says 19% would date a bisexual person, so I think the survey isn't specific to those who date men. I appreciate that if enough lesbians who wouldn't date bi women (??? also biphobic) answered the survey then it would throw off the numbers for men so maybe the observation I made is inaccurate, but I feel like these numbers aren't adding up.
Is it something to do the first statistic using "man" and the second "person"?
Men are a subset of people, so there's no reason why opening up the category would restrict the % of women who would date within it.
They just haven't read my boys' love manga yet.
Kinda makes sense since a majority of women want a "manly man", at least thats what I see happening IRL.
its true my wife definitely chose the bear
i look like im wearing a sweater when im shirtless