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I've been looking to move on from membrane keyboards and go mechanical, but no matter where I look literally every mech has some form of obnoxious RGB lighting on it. Are there any that just.. don't have it?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

You can absolutely get non-RGB mechanical keyboards, but depending on if you mean completely non-backlit keyboards or single color backlit keyboards determines how hard it is to find. If you want non-backlit, its easy, you see them all over the place. If you want single color, your choice is highly limited. mechanicalkeyboards.com has some from Vortex, Varmilo, and KBParadise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

TL;DR: Check out the KeyChron K3 V2 Non-Backlight edition. Decent quality, inexpensive, no lights, and no knowledge required.

ZSA make good stuff, sell it at reasonable prices, provide incredible support, and give a shit about artists/humans/the world. Any time mechanical keyboards are mentioned I feel compelled to inject their name into the conversation. I've owned a Moonlander for a while now and I have nothing but good things to say about it. I'd recommend the ZSA Voyager for someone checking out not shitty keyboards for the first time.

With that out of the way: it's tough to find a lightless mech keyboard these days because backlights make sense and, so long as you're putting lights behind keycaps, you might as well use full color range LEDs and let the user set a low brightness white color or turn them off if they don't care for it. Some companies make non-backlight versions (KeyChron's K series for instance) but they're a rarity. Why produce and stock inventory that's not moving?

I recommend doing some research on how mechanical keyboards are built (watch a 10 minute video on the internet) and then using RTINGS' keyboard table for some comparison shopping. You're looking for a well rated keyboard with hot swappable PCBs designed to accommodate south-facing LEDs (they point down - less bright). One of the advantages of going mechanical is customization. Don't want the LEDs at all? Remove them from your build. Even without PCB hot swapping: no one will stop you desoldering LEDs from your keyboard.

Building out something like a Gem80 from NuPhy or a 60HE from Wooting will net you a high quality mechanical keyboard that won't get in your way but is customizable enough for you to avoid RGB-induced eye sores.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

Almost all RGB keyboards have a switch to turn off the lighting since some people have their computers in their bedrooms.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

Then look for mechanical keyboards instead of gaming keyboards.

Go with the originals. Cherry, das keyboard, unicomp. Even Logitech has backlit but non-rgb lights.

Personally I'm using a Filco Majestouch.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Another vote here for Das Keyboard. I've had mine well over ten years and it's still fantastic. And no flashy lights.

[–] Jolteon 1 points 5 hours ago

Yep, it's the RBG that makes a mechanical keyboard a gaming keyboard.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

Build your own how you like it.
You can almost choose like Legos.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Akko has good ones. They are relatively cheap, but expect to spend ~90 euros on a full sized 110 key keyboard. I like akko cos they genuinely look good, no need for RGB.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

I'd be happy with a keyboard deeper than the apparent 1mm the junk is going with.

As a bonus, one that's easier to vacuum for cat hair and similar detritus.

As a second bonus, one I can frustratingly pound when fingers/coding are betraying me. I will never manage that anger.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

Did Das Keyboard go RGB? That’s a (pricey) but great keyboard.

E: just had a quick look. Still expensive, backlit but not RGB, full keyboard. We’ve had one for a decade.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

The Logitech K845 only has a white backlight. It's a really clean, professional looking mechanical.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago

WASD Keyboards

[–] [email protected] 16 points 19 hours ago

You can usually shut off the rgb lighting all together.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

HHKB could be an option or not i use a laptop's keyboard as a main.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (8 children)

Just turn it off? Or keep it as a backlight, set it to one solid color you like with brightness turned down to be subtle but useful.

You don't need to keep it on rgb puke.

Snark aside, pick a keyboard you like for the size/feel/features and find out if its a software nightmare (razer) or not before worrying about rgb (just make sure rgb can be configured).

[–] [email protected] 15 points 23 hours ago (10 children)

I don't want my keyboard to have software configuration on my PC. It's a fucking keyboard. It doesn't need and shouldn't have an app.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

If you get one with QMK and Via you just set everything with a web app and everything is stored on the keyboard. Software is entirely necessary if you're not using a QWERTY layout.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

My cheap Amazon RGB mech keyboards don’t need software to turn off/on/customize RGB or change colors or anything.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 hours ago

My Corsair keyboards do not require an app to be installed forever.

If I want to customize colors and whatnot I need the app, otherwise there are some presets on the keyboard itself.

If I customize the colors, I use the app and do it and then uninstall the app and move on. This is presumably MUCH easier than trying to do this without an interface directly on the keyboard which I suppose would be the alternative.

It WOULD be nice to just be able to edit a text file and copy it over.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Look up the Redragon VATA K580 if you are looking for modular with on-board keyboard LED controls via key combos (no software or system level lighting functionality.) I've been using that for a while with AKKO silent penguins, and I really like the thing.

Only downside I can think of is how narrow the sides of the included switches are, and how I accidentally damaged two of them while pulling the switches out. Might just be skill issue on my part, but it did come with a few spare switches anyways.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 19 hours ago

There are reasons you may want an app besides rbg: like if your keyboard supports macros, or if you have a hall sensor keyboard and you want to configure the activation and deactivation heights of your key presses.

But yeah, I kinda think rbg keyboards are lame

[–] [email protected] 10 points 23 hours ago

Ducky keyboards and most rgb mechs let you define the keyboard just with fn combinations. The software is for convenience

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 23 hours ago

Simple solution: turn off rgb. Usually can be done throigh software or theres a dedictaed fn key combination for it

Or you can go down the mech keeb rabbithole and start collecting nice boards

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

There are many, many non-RGB and even non-backlit keyboards. Where are you looking?

Try mechanicalkeyboards.com

Here is a basic mech kb with no added frills.
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/ducky-origin-black

Both of my own keyboards have the ability to disable the backlights—which is ideal, imo, so I can change my mind later.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Damn that Ducky Origin looks good! Wish there was an 80% option.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago

Damn I'm bad at searching, then. Thanks!

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago

Ducky Origin

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (5 children)

https://www.daskeyboard.com/

Das keyboard - excellent for years and years.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Keychron makes some. I've had two of their keyboards and love both of them.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I've never really understood why people specifically avoid buying products with RGB lighting. You can usually just set it to a color you like, or simply turn them off. Instead people don't buy the thing they want because of the "obnoxious RGB". Imo it's like not wanting to buy a nice speaker because when you tried it at the store the volume was too high or you didn't like the sample track it played.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Because avoiding more ewaste is a GOOD thing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago

Because you're paying for a gimmick instead of quality, and you don't wanna support products that dont do that, and in capitalism that's the only way to vote for what products get created.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago

I can get not wanting to pay for a feature you actively dislike

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The RGB inevitably resets itself and turns back on. Some of them are easy to turn off. Others require software (malware) you have to explicitly install to turn off the RGB.

My desktop has a lovely feature where if I turn it off the RGB turns BACK ON. And it turns out my case is just the right angle for the RGB to shine into my face when I’m in bed.

So yes I will pay more money to not get RGB.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Is that software available for every platform? Whenever I hear Gamer(tm) features, I assume that the crap customization software for Windows only. I like my mouse, but I can only customize the layout in Windows.

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