100% defederate from Threads. Even if there is no initial impact, Meta has shown their true colours time and time again. They are not to be trusted

Thanks for putting up this poll! I appreciate your approach on voting and distributed decision making.

One suggestion: 24 hours seems a little short for voting to be open. I imagine there could be some users who would like to have a say on issues that do not check Lemmy every day. Is it possible for future polls to be open longer? Or alternatively, for them to be scheduled and pinned a few days ahead of time.

I don't like defederation in general (and honestly, I didn't even realize Threads was federated), but I also think a lot of the problems with social media these days (shakes fist at cloud) is because of companies like Meta, Twitter, Reddit, etc. all selling our data and just looking to make a buck.

I think it's unfair to Lemmy/Mastodon/* and all of the server admins to just bring in the traditional networks without allowing the "federated experiment" to play out first. A lot of people are here right now because they don't like the traditional networks, and it would certainly sour the experience for me if we were suddenly back in with them.

Meta pays hundreds or maybe thousands of people to spend 8 hours a day coming up with novel ways to capture and monetize our personal info. It’s too much of a burden to expect any one of us to predict how the fediverse might be exploited, and once that toothpaste is out of the tube, it might not go back in. That’s why I think it makes sense to defederate proactively instead of waiting until we’ve already been exploited by them. We know that’s how they operate, so why wait to see exactly what form it takes?

I think it's an unfortunate but necessary step. A lot of us moved here to try to get away from the "corporate" social networks.

Also think it would be worth having the poll open longer than 24 hours, but not sure if you can change the time mid vote.

Politics aside, there is a technical risk to consider: The volume of messages and data that Meta will bring can flood the instance and rise the costs.

Even before killing the fediverse by Embrace-Extend-Extinguish, it can kill the fediverse by forcing it to grow to fast.

This is how Meta will destroy the fediverse: https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html

Lemmy.ml have defederated. Agree with the concensus so far and think it shoud defederate. Hard to trust any app by Meta given their track record.

fuck I threads. defederate.

First, thank you for the detailed post and taking measured action.

While some people raised some food points about the upsides of threads (mainly user influx helping to round out niche communities), I think we just have to be patient while Lemmy takes off on its own. The potential downside of Meta's influence is just too large.

I don't think defederation has to be for ever. We can still play the wait and see approach by defederating now, and if the concerns were false there is still room to undo it (though sadly I doubt it will come to this)

Hey, thank you so much for doing this. It feels good to be part of a community where this type of decision is left up to said community 😊❤️

I enjoy this instance and Im totally in favor of defederating. Threads needs to be killed or atleast isolated early from the main fedeverse because if it gets too big it cant be stopped

I’m so happy to see that this appears to be nearly unanimous in favor of defederating, at least based on the comments. I was worried I’d have to flee to another instance to avoid that corporate influence

I'll leave this server if it doesn't distance itself from Facebook. Fuck Facebook.

Edit: I left Facebook a literal decade before I left Reddit... And for much better reasons. Don't allow Meta the time to astroturf this vote. Say no now, and make the right choice.

I certainly wouldnt mind the expanded userbase and discussion.

But overall, unless sites are truly malicious, defederating seems like it hurts things more than it helps.

We should definitely defederate from threads due to privacy reasons, and I am worried that the influx of users will overwhelm the culture with the culture of instagram and threads.

Defederate

Yes, defederate from threads

Quick question: Would defederating be a permanent action? Because in the best case, where we see that the joining of meta has no major negative consequences (as unbelievable as it would be, but bear with me), could we not federate once again? (And get all the benefits of what that would entail?)

(Fyi, really green federation user here)

So I see no actual problem allowing them in and then when/if they break off and defenderate then we here are all still solid and chilling the only loss is the people / friends we meet there but if we never have the chance to meet said friends and maybe show them how being off of threads and into another instance is better how is that better? And for the whole my data thing as far as I know (please correct me if I'm wrong) the only data they could collect is what we freely post and like etc. Witch they could do anyway. I say let em federat