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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't know for certain if he deserves it or not, but this guy will always be known as the guy accused of using a buttplug to cheat at chess. There's no escaping it at this point.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He should go for a brand deal

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The next one up is the bishop.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

wait until the knight comes out

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I honestly feel bad for him. He's always gonna be associated with this meme. I don't blame Magnus for not wanting to play with a known former cheater, but there's a solid chance that Niemann's win against him was legitimate.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Niemann is a known cheater. He cheated tons of times. Whether he cheated against Magnus or not (I believe he did, but Magnus did make some mistakes in that game as well) doesn't change how I feel about the accusations.

Niemann earned the reputation of a cheater... by cheating... a lot. I don't care if he was 16 during the confirmed incidents of cheating. That's well old enough to understand what's happening. And he's really not that much older now. It wasn't that long ago. He should live with the consequences of his actions.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

He would have gone out happier than he is now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I did too! Major whiplash

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't think using sex toys in a relationship is cheating tbh.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Depends who’s controlling it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

NSA: giggles from their desk as they tunnel into lovense and control this guys toy and ruin his entire career

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Open communication is key.

If my partner told me upfront that they want to use a vibrator, I'd personally be fine with that. But if they did it secretly, it would call into question our entire history. A good relationship is built on trust and an honest representation of each person's Elo rating.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Masturbation can't be secret?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They should make chess piece shaped butt plugs. Some pieces are just perfect like the bishop.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"I was using it purely for anal pleasure, it was completely unrelated to the chess match at-hand."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

“You can stick this game, up your ass”

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Lol, this story is still going? Didn't this whole thing blow up like 8 months ago or something?

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, still circling the rim

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the story just needs to eat more fiber... it will work itself out soon after

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Maybe it's eating the wrong kind of fiber. Too much of that and it binds right up

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe someone is plugging a book that comes out soon?

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

I read denies as dies for some reason. Very different story

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How does that even work???

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My guess would be it buzzes Morse code on what moves to play.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I read another article that said a lot of cheaters do consult software that will suggest good moves. I’m just wondering how you get a sex toy to transmit the data about all the pieces on the board and request it back. Is he squeezing a butt plug with his anus in Morse code with the positions of every piece? Is there a network attached device connected to pick up the signal and send a request to an API and return the Morse code to his butthole? If he can do all that, IMO that’s even more impressive than being an elite chess player

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're missing the more obvious possibility. Someone else is recording the game, inputting the moves, and sending the commands to vibrate. Player only needs to interpret.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Someone gave it a try. https://youtu.be/5uDM3fPeNFM

It's SFW, don't worry.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's no need for something that complex.
Someone with access to a chess engine watches the game and inputs the moves into the engine as they're played. If there's a critical move (only 1 or very few of the options are winning/don't throw the game) they send a simple signal to let him know. That can be enough to give you an advantage at that level. If you really want, you could send a number between 1 and 6 to represent which piece the engine prefers to move, but it's likely not necessary.

That said, all the evidence he actually did anything like that is at best circumstantial (mostly statistical evidence supposedly showing how unlikely his performance was given his past performance and rating at the time, as well as known instances of past cheating by him - though the only confirmed ones were several years ago when he was still a kid and online rather than in person).

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Holy shit, this was a real thing?! So that's where It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia got the idea!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@Decoy321 @TheJims It was definitely a real controversy for months a while back. He won and his opponent iirc accused him of having a vib to help him cheat.

General concensus is that it's unlikely. The sheet complexity of communicating movements via vib patterns alone makes it a stretch.

Plus... ya know: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWCDc4I0cSQ

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wasn't the accusation that he had a device in his shoe, and the buttplug thing was just a joke that got out of hand?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Pietson @TheJims @Decoy321 that wasn't what I heard but I didn't look too too far into it. I read a few of the light articles that discussed the viability of the butt plug cheat device, but aside from that I didn't really go back to the source or anything.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why do your comments tag anyone remotely involved in this?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because that's how Mastodon works.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Ah ok, weird. Thanks!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looking back at this. This whole thing was a wild ride. Magnus took being a sore loser to another level.

Grade A asshole

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Known cheater plays a perfect game as black against a world champion who has never lost as white in decades. Grade A asshole, yep.

https://youtu.be/5uDM3fPeNFM?si=VASdcNJQwOwLFEMa

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Perfect is a bit of a stretch. There was a tiny chance of Niemann winning that match, but smarter folk than I have analyzed the game and said that it was consistent with legitimate play

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If your dumb enough to believe the reddit meme about a vibrating butt plug being how he cheated, seriously reconsider your life

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