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Sept. 30 (UPI) -- Elon Musk is under fire after publicly backing a far-right political party in Germany, suggesting the current government should not be re-elected over its position on the current migrant crisis in Europe.

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[–] [email protected] 143 points 11 months ago (31 children)

Wow. He straight up just admitted he's a Nazi. Absolutely fucking vile.

[–] [email protected] 93 points 11 months ago (2 children)

He thinks it's controversial to not let migrants (men, women and children) drown and die, and has no problem promoting a party which is full of nazi sympathizers.

He's a sociopath, a racist and a fascist.

And those likely aren't even his worst characteristics, given the stories of sexual assault, links to Epstein, and the fact his father married his own daughter.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I don’t think I want to let him off the hook with a metal disorder.

I won’t accept that he’s a sociopath until there’s an official diagnosis. Sociopaths deserve empathy and need treatment. Musk is just a reprehensible asshole.

(By the way @Hyperreality, I’m not arguing with you. I’m taking the word “sociopath” more literally than you intended. I know what you mean, and agree.)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Even a sociopath needs to want the treatment for it to work

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

That's why he loves the letter X so much. With a slight modification, it becomes a swastika.

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[–] [email protected] 126 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Elon Musk is a South African who lives and operates in the US. Why tf is he trying chiming in about any German electoral process?

How about Apartheid Clyde stays in his lane.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He's building a Tesla factory in Germany. So that might be why. Also it's not just a right wing party, but the most extreme right wing party in Germany that isn't forbidden yet.

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[–] RaincoatsGeorge 6 points 11 months ago (4 children)

The fact that this gets media coverage like it even remotely matters is madness. Will there be media coverage of my posts on the topic, since it's suddenly world news when a private American citizen comments on what is happening in another country..

[–] [email protected] 47 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Because it does matter, motherfucker has millions of people listening to him and a worldwide social media that he controls. Even if his opinions are trash, he amplifies and spreads this garbage, and gives a platform for the scum of the earth who wouldn't have it otherwise.

Fucking Henry Ford of our age.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago

This isn't Tom the small business accountant from rural Ohio commenting on Germany's immigration policy on a facebook post. It's someone who controls more money than the GDP of multiple entire countries, and who has already shown an interest in using his companies to influence geo-politics based on his opinions in the moment.

If anything, you should be concerned that a single individual can make choices about global politics without discussion or legal safety guards - which has historically caused some issues in the place that the AfD comes from.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

To be fair, this is a private American citizen with close enough ties to far right politicians he hosted the campaign launch of one, who’s whim personally controls a major space launch provider and a site that sets the terms of public conversation and normality for a terrifying large number of people, and ohh ya, in an economic system based around the idea that the person with the most capital gets to decide what to do , well he has the most capital.

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 11 months ago

Elon Musk is starting to go so far off the deepend that we may need to call in Britney Spears dad to take conservertership of him.

[–] balderdash9 40 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm trying my damndest to ignore Musk. I invite you all to join me

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago

Does ignoring influential fascists make them stop trying to increase their influence? Or make them stop being fascists?

Maybe we should ask Neville Chamberlain how well that works?

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (80 children)

Dude just admit his a nazi? Or the far right in Germany is not what I think it is. Not familiar with the party structure there.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In 2022, it was ruled that the BfV may classify and monitor the entire party as a suspected right-wing extremist group. A corresponding lawsuit by the AfD was dismissed because "there were sufficient factual indications of anti-constitutional efforts within the AfD".[36] On 26 April 2023, the BfV, after four years of investigations into the Young Alternative for Germany, categorized that group as a confirmed extremist organization. This allowed the chief of the BfV Thomas Haldenwang to place the youth wing under even more intensive surveillance than the tapping of phone and the use of undercover agents that had been the case until then.[45][46]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_for_Germany

Just summarizing here. They are right wing extremists that have taken over old Nazi talking points and are gaining popularity with anti immigration, anti climate change and populist propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

BfV is the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution, a domestic intelligence agency, so somewhat comparable to the FBI in the USA.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They're also famous for very much being “blind on the right eye”. They didn't ban the neonazi party “NPD” (for reference: the original Nazi party was the NSDAP) and their last ex boss (Hans-Georg Maaßen) is a far right conspiracy nut.

They've partially come around apparently as they're now watching the AfD (which is far stronger than the NPD ever was) as well as Maaßen.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

BfV cannot ban parties. Only the highest court (Bundesverfassungsgericht) can. The only reason they did not do it was because the NPD has too little meaning to be a thread to the German constitution.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

He's been cheering for nazis for ages by now. Doesn't that make him a nazi?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

They're against immigration, Islam, refugees, gender equality, gay marriage, and Kosher food. They want the German army to bring back conscription.

They're fucking Nazis.

He's endorsing Nazis.

He's a Nazi.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago

Fuck Nazis. Especially billionaire Nazis.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Or better, seize all his peoperty and money

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I hope that if he steps foot in any country that experienced the horrors of Nazism, that the locals take to the streets to forcefully eject him from the country. He should be denied entry by the EU entirely.

Edit: I also hopes Germany does something about the AfD, who don't appear to be congruous with Nazi anti-glorification laws.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He only wants a political party that will side with his delusions. Unfortunately his delusions sided with nazis.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

No, you see, HE isn't a Nazi, he just happens to agree with everything Nazis say.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

According to an expert assessment from the German Institute for Human Rights that's a hundred pages long, all the conditions for banning the AfD party are met. Talks about the urgent need to do so are being kicked off. If a party ban is seriously being considered, you know they are doing something wrong. Party bans in Germany are very difficult to achieve for obvious historical reasons. So far only two have been banned, one of them was the SRP, the follow-up party of the Nazi party.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It doesn't matter how much money he has - every time I visualize Musk posting to Twitter, I see him as a teenage edgelord in a shabby suburban tract house, hunched over an off-the-shelf desktop PC in a room with green shag carpeting and fake wood paneling, lit only by the glow from the screen, giggling to himself.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Twitter is so easy for people to get off of. But they won't.

Now, if any companies could give any serious competition in the US to SpaceX (launch or Starlink) and Tesla, that would be phenomenal.

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