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There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[-] [email protected] 85 points 9 months ago

This seems fine

In messages circulated on Friday, State Department staff wrote that high-level officials do not want press materials to include three specific phrases: “de-escalation/ceasefire,” “end to violence/bloodshed” and “restoring calm.”

yea

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[-] [email protected] 84 points 9 months ago

If I hear a single pro-Israel person express any concern whatsoever about Ukrainian civilians after this then I think I might go insane

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[-] [email protected] 84 points 9 months ago

Banners reading "Genocide Gaza" and "Victory looks like zero people in Gaza" hang in Tel Aviv.

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[-] [email protected] 84 points 9 months ago

To the extent that it even matters, all the smug liberal polisci browbeating of leftists over manufactured events like Hungary 1956, Tienanmen Square, Uyghurs, the Holodomor is over now. The DNC itself is co-responsible in a genocide.

Even the notion that liberal democracies should be anti-authoritarian is gone. The US has banned business boycotts of Israel and the EU has banned public criticism of genocide.

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[-] [email protected] 83 points 9 months ago

listen here kiddo, i get it. i dont like the two state solution

and quite frankly, i dont wanna support hamas, it feels like supporting terrorists

but im gonna do it, you wanna know why?

because the alternative is a fucking genocide

a genocide! its a genocide!

so maybe we can have a conversation around dismantling the terror network when a genocide isnt happening

maybe we can do that later kiddo. champ. chief. maybe we can talk about it later

maybe-later-kiddo

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[-] [email protected] 83 points 9 months ago

TRAPPING 2 MILLION PEOPLE IN AN OPEN AIR CONCENTRATION CAMP! FIRST ONE TO LIBERATE THEMSELVES GETS THEIR LAND BACK! 💲🏡💲 :mr-beast:

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[-] [email protected] 83 points 9 months ago

If the sub had somehow survived and hadn't been banned, it absolutely would have been fucking banned this week lol.

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[-] [email protected] 83 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

New cuck n chad ranking after this weekend's crazy ass events, Russia vs Ukraine gets one single row as shit's boring now

Gigachad Chad Neutral Beta (Fe)Male Virgin Cuck
Lukashenko (Forever chad) Russian MoD (after a period of Ls, they have proven their worth after recent performance) ⬆️ Putin (bro rode the wave excellently) Zelensky (almost feeling bad for him atm, not even the news will care now) Western backers of Ukraine (congrats, you failed the counter-offensive planning and doomed Ukraine forever now)
Hamas paragliders (most based thing I've ever seen in my life) Hezbollah (just their name makes the zionist shake) Random South Americans on X (either most deranged zios or pure third world solidarity) Western "leftists" (a few white ravers getting killed was enough to call for genocide against brown savages) IDF losers sleeping in barracks (rest in fucking piss colonizer scum)
Palestinian Marxist parties (these guys are the bravest, most principled leftists in the world) Hamas rocket makers (most resourceful chads in the world, rocket goes boom somehow despite being in a prison) Non-Palestinian Arabs (pure hatred of the zios despite their cuck governments, need another Arab spring tho) Nikol Pashinyan (Only non-Palestine entry, but signing over your country while cucking for America as usual is a new low) EU libs (the shift towards clear pro-genocide rhetoric is insane, I fucking hate Europeans so much it's unreal.)
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[-] [email protected] 83 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

West Asia may be headed toward a large-scale war that will extend well beyond the Gaza Strip and southern Israel, now mired in violent conflict.

"Operation Al-Aqsa Flood,” carried out by Hamas at dawn on 7 October, has already led to the killing of hundreds of Israeli soldiers and settlers, the capture of about 200 of them, and the destruction of Israel’s lauded deterrence. Whether the war will bleed into multiple borders and arenas now depends entirely on what Israel does or does not do in the days and weeks ahead. Predictably, Tel Aviv – with the US and EU standing firmly behind it – has begun by launching a military operation in the Gaza Strip to eliminate the Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) resistance movements.

After a round of consultations held with a number of western heads of state - led by US President Joe Biden and his French counterpart Emmanuel Macron - Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu confirmed in statements that his western allies have granted Israel full freedom to eliminate the Palestinian resistance in Gaza.

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These galvanizing gestures to excite public sentiment are reminiscent of events in March 1996, when the west and its allies gathered in Sharm El-Sheikh to ostensibly ‘combat terrorism.’ Their goal was not to halt terror, but to destroy the resistance in Palestine and Lebanon. That conference was the green light for Israel to launch “Operation Grapes of Wrath” on Lebanon one month later. That military fiasco ended with Hezbollah winning points, increasing its domestic role, and establishing the resistance group as a Lebanese protector against Israeli attacks. Last weekend, Israel once again captured the west's undivided attention. Tel Aviv, along with Washington and other western capitals, are dead-set on restoring the deterrence destroyed by Operation Al-Aqsa Flood.

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Hamas did not coordinate its military operation with any of its Resistance Axis allies. It also did not plan to achieve the stunning results that were soon to follow. The Qassam Brigades' immediate goal was only to destroy Israeli army positions around the Gaza Strip and capture as many soldiers as possible, which they could later exchange for the thousands of Palestinian captives in Israeli prisons. But the Palestinian resistance forces were taken by surprise at the laxity of the occupation army. Contrary to expectations, they stumbled upon security vacuums and poorly guarded military sites in which a large number of enemy soldiers and officers were fast asleep. It was this unexpected opportunity that prodded the Palestinian fighters to reach for bigger gains.

Very few knew details of the comprehensive attack plan. Even Hamas' allies in Lebanon and Iran learned of the operation at zero o'clock and not a moment before, according to well-informed sources in the Resistance Axis.

Even for this axis, the Hamas operation went beyond all possible expectations. Although true that many of the Hamas tactics employed are shared among the Axis' fighters in Palestine, Lebanon, Iran, and Yemen, the innovation in the Al-Aqsa Flood operation was the signature of the Al-Qassam Brigades, and particularly its brilliant leader Muhammad Deif. The operation was coordinated with remarkable professionalism: accurate and detailed intelligence was amassed, high-level training exercises organized, secrecy was paramount, and superior coordination was established between the myriad drones, paratroopers, and vast majority of Hamas fighters who crossed into the occupation state, through tunnels and above ground. Al Qassam also planned to target Israeli communications towers and all military sites surrounding Gaza. From a military perspective, this was a near-perfect operation that led to the destruction of all the facilities of the Israeli army's “Gaza Division" and the annihilation of entire Israeli brigades. For Israel, this was a total humiliation - something it had never experienced before, even in the devastating 1973 Arab-Israeli war.

Hopefully this puts to bed the "Hamas has no idea what hell it has unleashed" thought-terminating cliche. They knew exactly what they were doing. They continue to know exactly what they are doing.

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[-] [email protected] 82 points 9 months ago

Thank you Israel for uniting the Arab World again. Even racist Saudis on Twitter are now realizing that there's literally nothing redeemable about the West anymore. It's really cool how they all realized that our lives aren't valuable to them, they'll freeze our assets like they did with the Russians if we ever piss them off and the average Westerner supports the killing of Arabs without batting an eye. Arabs and Muslims only have the people of the third world on their side, the westerners are useless.

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[-] [email protected] 82 points 9 months ago
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[-] [email protected] 82 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Saudi Arabia has ended normalisation talks with Israel

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[-] [email protected] 81 points 9 months ago

Liberals: I would support the oppressed rising up against their oppressors

Oppressed: rise up against their oppressors

Liberals: Terrorists! They should have accepted the peace offered by their oppressors! Both sides are bad, but we need to send billions of dollars worth of weapons to the oppressors so they can put the oppressed back in their place!

[-] [email protected] 81 points 9 months ago

israel gave permission to the Red Crescent medical teams to enter the bombarded areas to rescue the wounded. As soon as they entered, they were directly targeted, and the paramedics were killed.

Israel delenda est.

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[-] [email protected] 81 points 9 months ago

Most telegram comments are heinous, but sometimes you get a banger

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[-] [email protected] 81 points 9 months ago

careful, the libs are starting to learn capybara-theorist

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[-] [email protected] 81 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Three important tactics to follow when commenting on the crisis on reddit-logo :

  • Browse by New or Rising. You want to get in early.
  • Make liberal use reddit's block feature. Respond to and then immediately block any Zionists. Because of reddit's stupid design of their block feature, they will be unable to comment on any comment trees where your comment is higher up on the parent comment heirarchy. If you are down in the "show more comments" are, go back up to the top and respond to higher comments, which will lock the people you have blocked out of comments below. The downside is that users you have blocked comment before you, you can't respond, but that's what alts and also the first tactic is for.
  • If you get blocked first, find their account and block them back. It will lock you both out of the comment tree.
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[-] [email protected] 81 points 9 months ago
[-] [email protected] 81 points 9 months ago

Israel is really an excellent essay on how nation-states are formed, the ways in which they are painfully artificial, and the lengths and violence their architects had to go to to create a singular "nation" with no ethnic or linguistic dissidents who could oppose the project. Like i think it's hard to convey to modern people that nation-states as a concept are really only 2-300 years old, that people prior to that didn't think of themselves as "Americans" or "English" or "German" the way we do, and that the creation of these entities required both a lot of theoretical development and I guess media or propaganda, but also a lot of very real violence, both cultural and physical. Paris's careful cultural genocide against minority French language groups and cultures to enforce Parisian language and culture across France, the creation of Germanness to unite the German language groups, that's all way in the past, but you can watch Israel do it over the last 70ish years - Creating everyday Hebrew out of liturgical Hewbrew and making it a commonly used language in Israel, basically re-writing Jewish theology and religion to suit the needs of the nation-state, the use of overt and clandestine violence against competing ideologies and interpretations of zionism, as well as non-zionists. It's much easier to see.

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[-] [email protected] 80 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yesterday my roommate said he heard there was going to be a pogrom in the city today (NYC). coworker yesterday and this morning said there was going to be terrorist attacks.

What the actual fuck is going on with people?

Edit: I'm going to times square to investigate. I guarantee it's absolutely nothing

Edit 2: it was nothing.

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[-] [email protected] 80 points 9 months ago

Al Jazeera currently showing close-ups of the Israeli use of white phosphorus, multiple camera angles and the fires captured clear as day

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[-] [email protected] 80 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Apparently theres an isreali leftist in their parliament?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/8/israeli-lawmaker-blames-pogroms-against-palestinians-for-terrible-attacks

“The Israeli government, which is a fascist government, supports, encourages, and leads pogroms against the Palestinians. There is an ethnic cleansing going on. It was obvious the writing was on the wall, written in the blood of the Palestinians – and unfortunately now Israelis as well,” he added.

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[-] [email protected] 80 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

"death to the Chinese", "death to the ruskies", "death to the Arabs"

You'd think that by now libs would have realized they're just white supremacists

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[-] [email protected] 80 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Israeli Defense Minister orders siege on Gaza: "There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel. We are fighting human animals and we will act accordingly."

The Palestinians in Gaza are being referred to like the Germans referred to the Jews in Auschwitz. Absolutely depraved. This statement will be in the history books for centuries so we will Never Forget the barbaric Zionist regime and their crimes.

edited this comment from "Gaza has become Auschwitz" to the above so that it's a little less of a direct comparison, which is inappropriate (besides, as pointed out, there are better historical analogies)

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[-] [email protected] 80 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Libs: No one is defending Hamas' actions

Me:

Technically it's more that I am broadly defending Palestians rights to launch attacks in Israel under the right of self defense that is a right of all nations, and that Israel made Hamas inevitable through it's actions.

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[-] [email protected] 80 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The attack on that rave certainly really does feel like it's super fucking symbolic. Think about it, bougie settlers holding a treat rave party next to an open air concentration camp. The inmates break free and do some righteous violence. The media knows it, Israel knows it, it's so slimy the way it's being used along with the beheaded babies to drum up the war. Israel is such a wormy, guilty, evil country, that it has to know deep down this blowback was decades rightfully in the making.

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[-] [email protected] 80 points 9 months ago

I love being called anti-semitic by the same people arming actual Nazis

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[-] [email protected] 79 points 9 months ago

If Palestine has one million supporters i am one of them.

If Palestine has one thousand supporters i am one of them.

if Palestine has ten supporters I am one of them.

If Palestine has only one supporter then it is me.

If Palestine has no supporters it means i am dead.

If the world is against Palestine I am against the world.

[-] [email protected] 79 points 9 months ago
[-] [email protected] 79 points 9 months ago

Egypt has refused to let US Nationals leave Gaza through Rafah.

Egyptian Authorities are refusing to let US nationals leave Gaza unless the US forces Israel to accept the Rafah Border Crossing be a designated aid crossing where Egyptian and International Aid can be brought to Gaza.

No aid allowed to pass = No US or European foreigner can leave.

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[-] [email protected] 79 points 9 months ago

I know it's been said before, but it's wild how quick libs/westies flipped from "we support Palestine" to "Israel should finish the genocide" basically overnight. It really is like there's a switch being flipped in an office somewhere to change the signal or something

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[-] [email protected] 79 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Average Israel supporter: Why yes, I do root for the humans in Avatar. How did you know?

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[-] [email protected] 79 points 9 months ago

Seth Crosby is a Director at the Department of Genetics at Washington University

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[-] [email protected] 79 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

"Israel has a right to defend itself, and surgically target Hamas targets"

strikes multiple ambulances with artillery

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[-] [email protected] 79 points 9 months ago

the-democrat "When defending your homeland from a foreign aggressor, absolutely no act violent resistance is unjustified, even joining the Waf-"

"You're reading off of last week's script, here's this ones"

the-democrat ...whoops, what I meant to say was "This unprovoked act of aggression is absolutely unconscionable, there is no justification for this violence. We must send unlimited and unrestricted support to the IDF immediately"

[-] [email protected] 78 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Remembering how "muslims should stay in their home countries and work to make it better instead of becoming refugees in the west" was a mainstream talking point for almost 2 decades

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[-] [email protected] 78 points 9 months ago

Imagine it's 1943, you're a well off gentile European with the ability to move anywhere in the world. You decide to attend an open-air accordion music concert within earshot of the Warsaw ghetto under the nazi banner. In between each insipid oom-pah song you can hear the wailing of sick, starving, dying Jews suffering at the hands of the SS. You sit there, still smiling, vibing, dancing, enjoying the music.

You absolutely, 100% deserve death. You're reveling in human suffering.

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[-] [email protected] 78 points 9 months ago

There has only been some tit for tat exchanges of fire with Hezbollah with both sides giving it like 2 percent how have you already lost a commander michael-laugh

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[-] [email protected] 78 points 9 months ago

reminder that netanyahu is from the suburbs of Philadelphia. the leader of a country which is home to a people who are putatively indigenous to the levant and claim to have been there for thousands of years has a favorite cheesesteak place

Death to America

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[-] [email protected] 78 points 9 months ago

zelensky-pain

What a fuckin’ loser. Liberals have dropped him like a hot potato now that they have another genocide to support.

Dumbass really thought he would escape the universal puppet fate of being discarded like used toilet paper once your usefulness has run its course

I’m not sure anyone would care if he died at this point.

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[-] [email protected] 78 points 9 months ago

Fun fact: it is exactly 33 years to the day since the fake babies in incubators story was originally given

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[-] [email protected] 78 points 9 months ago

BREAKING — Israel has only given two hours to evacuate Al Awda Hospital in Gaza, Doctors Without Borders says

“Our staff are still treating patients.

We unequivocally condemn this action, the continued indiscriminate bloodshed and attacks on health care in Gaza.“

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[-] [email protected] 78 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Zionists are either some of the stupidest people or the most evil liars you can possibly encounter. I can't tell you the number of times I have seen asshole say that Gaza isn't a ghetto or concentration camp (which itself is a distinction largely without a difference) because it has a high birth rate. You know, high birth rates, that thing you find in stable and prosperous places like Western Europe or Japan.

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[-] [email protected] 77 points 9 months ago

Putin compares 'unacceptable' Gaza siege to Nazi blockade of Leningrad

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[-] [email protected] 77 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The toppling of the Israeli regime is now the reasonable, pragmatic, centrist position. sorry I don't make the rules here

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[-] [email protected] 77 points 9 months ago

It would be nice if the US media took a break from non-stop interviewing Israeli families with people kidnapped by Hamas. Instead - the media could at least mention Israel's relentless raining death and destruction on Gaza.

Every eyewitness account from friends in #Gaza is the same: Israel's bombing is like nothing they've ever experienced before. No pretense of "targeted strikes" on Hamas, just wanton, indiscriminate destruction of whole neighborhoods. Entire families obliterated in an instant.

"My eldest son is 9, he asked me if he died would he go to heaven or hell?" our @MedicalAidPal friend and colleague Mahmoud Shalabi told us. A thought playing out in the minds of a million children currently under bombardment with no escape. How can any human heart accept this?

A world rightly horrified just a day ago by stories of entire families killed, or huddling terrified together for hours wondering if they would live, is... suddenly absolutely fine with it when it is a different family just a few miles away? How do we account for this?

Nitter

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[-] [email protected] 77 points 9 months ago

cw: israeli occupation soldier aiming a rifle at women and children.

Chairman Daou continues to be good. Pretty good glow-up all told.

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