I love Game Pass, but I don't like monopolies. I wish regulators had blocked this. Also: https://www.theonion.com/just-six-corporations-remain-1819564741
this post was submitted on 13 Oct 2023
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I was laughing at the onion article and stopped- was that really published in 1998 ?!?!? Or is the date also a joke?
It reads like it's from 98. The references to Blockbuster, Daimler-Chrysler, McDonnell Douglas, and Bill Clinton tipped me off this was an old one.
Wikipedia says that The Onion has had a website since '96, so it's definitely possible! (Also, TIL The Onion has existed since 1988.)
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It really is that old. According to their Supreme Court amicus brief: “Rising from its humble beginnings as a print newspaper in 1756, The Onion now enjoys a daily readership of 4.3 trillion and has grown into the single most powerful and influential organization in human history.” Seriously though, read that brief. It’s a masterful piece of satire.
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It's hard to block mergers based on a company involved being a monopoly if none of the companies involved are monopolies or will become monopolies.
Regulators have to come up with a different set of rules to block "large but not monopolistic mergers" without also just effectively protecting the actual leader in a given industry from competition.
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What a sad day for gamers. Microsoft now has all it needs to extinguish PlayStation & assert a monopoly on consoles, just as they do on PCs already, and the regulators will give them a wink and a nudge.
They can't even manage to beat Steam on their own OS to be fair lol
Write a more stable gaming launcher on your own OS than a 3rd party company (impossible)
Is Steam competing with Microsoft's "Netflix but with games" service?
No, and yet Steam is still winning. Game Pass can be a sick deal but many still prefer paying just a little more on a Steam Sale to own a game forever.
I do use steam so please don't misunderstand this as bashing, but you don't own anything on steam either. You rent it for life and access can legally be withdrawn if you act against the TOS. If you're looking to buy games GOG is the only real option I know of.
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Consoles are walled-gardens altogether. Also poor Sony set the markt rules with their 3rd-party exclusives for how many generations now?
If you want to keep gaming as far away from enshittificarion as possible, then set up a linux gaming pc. It's not bad anymore.
Sony set the markt rules with their 3rd-party exclusives
This is Nintendo erasure.
Which 3rd party exclusives are they sitting on except Bayonetta 2/3? I can't remember that many.
Nintendo has the same dumb practices, but they do it with their own IPs, which is a little less annyoing. Also they aren't the main player like Sony has been for the last two decades. They just own the Mario-and-Zelda-tablet.
Which 3rd party exclusives are they sitting on except Bayonetta 2/3?
Few today, but who set the market rules? They were set in the late 80s.
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We are so far away from that being even possible, let alone likely. Even Valve has successfully decoupled about 95% of PC gaming from Microsoft.
I'm talking about the platform, not the store front. Windows has far more than 90% of the PC gaming world market share, far more than what's enough to monopolize the PC gaming scene; GNU and macOS are a super distant second and third place. Whenever most people talk about "PC gaming", what they really mean is Windows, even though there are other PC platforms out there.
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Big corpo is bad but Microsoft is far behind in the console space and in the gaming pc front. They won't extinguish playstation anytime soon.
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Whilst monopolies are a terrible thing for consumers.
PlayStation and Nintendo still have the best first party lineups and IP available to them. I don’t think this is as big of a deal as people would like to make it seem.
I do agree this should have been blocked by regulators just as I thought with the Bethesda acquisition. Sony also with the acquisition of Bungie.
There should be a restriction on the purchasing of studios/publishers of a certain size.
Certainly isn’t going to hurt Sony or Nintendo. I also don’t think this is the big WIN that Microsoft thinks it’s going to be either.
Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.
That applies to open software standards, what does it have to do with buying cash cows?
That applies to open software standards, what does it have to do with buying cash cows?
It has no real meaning anymore. It's now a phrase people throw around as effectively a meme. You won't get anything but a wrong answer to this question.
It does seem like some people just automatically post it on every thread that mentions Microsoft. Just because we all dislike something doesn't mean we want to see the same low-effort comments spammed every time they come up in discussion like we're still on Reddit!
Because, to the majority of console gamers in the Americas and Europe, Call of Duty, FIFA, GTA, and Madden are the Only Games That Actually Matter™. There are a few million people that buy PlayStations just to play 1-2 of those games to the exclusion of everything else.
Now that they've taken out one of the four major reasons why people outside of Asia buy PlayStations, they can extinguish PlayStation & assert a monopoly on console gaming. It's sickening.
And somehow, I don't think that Sony resurrecting the Resistance series & making it into an annual release that always launches during the holiday season will make much of a difference.
They are nowhere near getting a monopoly of gaming. It sucks that studios are becoming more consolidated yes, but it's not monopoly level which is why this merger wasn't blocked.
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It's still an improper invocation of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish regardless; only Call of Duty came along with this sale, so by your own logic, they still can't have a monopoly; there are several other franchises, owned by several other corporate entities that Microsoft doesn't own, that would fit on that list of yours; and IMO, Resistance was never good anyway, so if they want to make their own Call of Duty, they're starting from scratch, and they've got a decade to figure it out.
Is there anything to back up the idea that call of duty is the behemoth it once was? Fortnite seems to be far more culturally relavent than war zone and seems to be both more profitable and have a larger player base. Don't get me wrong cod is still a big game, I just have my doubts it's making or breaking the whole industry.
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Well at least Microsoft can't ruin Blizzard any more than Activision ruined it.
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Fuck Activision
Especially Bobby and all the ones he enabled
Honestly this is bad for the gaming industry.
I understand a lot of game pass subscribers want more free stuff.
But just look at what Netflix had became after its success.
Or even just look at MS’s track record in using their monopolies to bully competitors.
Years later we will look at this and watch the tragedy unfold.
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It's a shame the UK's Competitive Markets Authority let this merger go through after all. I can't wait for the future, when 90% of the most popular games are made by 3 companies
the government was desperate for a post brexit trade deal
Now gut the boys club C Suite from ABK and help the thousands of employees.
Kotick is out in January at the very least. I think there is a 60 day waiting period before employees can begin unionizing, as part of the deal.
I hope you're right! My Blizzard/Starcraft boycot ends when that parasite of a CEO leaves.
Might be wishful thinking on my part but maybe Microsoft will better utilize their IPs.
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That's quite interesting, leaving aside all the monopoly arguments, I think this has potential to being very beneficial to all blizzard games, and so to us.
It looks like Kotick will be leaving after the transition so that's a great start. My dream is that this all somehow leads to the full Overwatch PvE campaign coming back onto the table again (given that their attempts to provide long-term replay ability without doing the work seem to be floundering now, there's a chance right?)
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