this post was submitted on 15 Oct 2023
586 points (97.6% liked)

World News

38237 readers
2681 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News [email protected]

Politics [email protected]

World Politics [email protected]


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Iran has told Israel through the UN that it will intervene if the country’s operations against Hamas in Gaza continue, a report has claimed.

Israel has warned 1.1 million people living in the north of the enclave to evacuate ahead of an expected ground operation in Gaza with the IDF planning to strike the territory from land, sea and air.

Iran’s involvement could be through a militant group from Syria or by backing Hezbollah to join the conflict, diplomatic sources told Axios.

Meanwhile, Iran’s foreign minister Hossein Amirabdollahian said that Israel’s operations could cause fighting to expand to other areas of the Middle East which would cause Israel to suffer “a huge earthquake”, reported the Associated Press.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 163 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Israel is 110% not going to heed this warning in the absolute slightest.

[–] [email protected] 121 points 10 months ago (16 children)

Iran does not pose a credible military threat to Israel. They only have a couple of options - terrorist attacks from their proxies, maybe a cross-border incursion from Lebanon that would be a slaughter and change the balance of power there, or an air strike. Israel is so amped up right now that they’d respond with airstrikes inside Iran, and US carrier groups are in the area with no misunderstanding as to what they signify.

This is saber-rattling for theatrics.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 10 months ago (25 children)

Iran are not wrong though, Israel need to chill.

It’s really annoying how the mainstream media is like yeah this is cool, when they’re commuting atrocities no better than Hamas committed.

I don’t know what it is with Israel that makes the world walk on eggshells but they have committed horrific acts and they should be called out on it.

Fucking monsters the Israeli government are.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Fucking monsters the Israeli government are.

They are despicably evil.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (24 replies)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, the only thing Israel is concerned about is the international reputation. They know they can't go full ham, even now every western government in support is dropping the "and I am SURE Israel will keep to international law" as a hint and reminder that there is a limit somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Lol... The UN has been trying to chastise Israel for decades now for literally breaking international law, and the US shuts it down with their veto power. They've already been doing it for decades.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (14 replies)
load more comments (6 replies)
[–] [email protected] 79 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I thought I was too late to invest in war companies, but perhaps that was premature.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago (18 children)

Doesn't that seem unethical, even if it might be lucrative?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If it's good enough for elected US representatives, it's good enough for me.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

They were talking about ethics, something an elected official would know nothing about.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago

The true answer is unequivocally yes. Fuck everyone who says otherwise trying to justify this ghoulish shit.

[–] Cethin 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I would argue the whole system is unethical. Capitalism has never bothered itself with ethics. That said, it's arguably even more unethical.

load more comments (15 replies)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (8 children)

So you expect that at some point in the future of mankind, there will be a period with no active conflict and weapons snuggling? 😂 my sweet child...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I think snuggling weapons is weird but one of the best uses for them

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)
load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (6 replies)
[–] [email protected] 63 points 10 months ago (4 children)

So this could widen to Israel/USA/UN(?) vs Iran/Syria/Lebanon(Hezbollah)/Gaza(Hamas) which would essentially be The War on Terror II. Which means another ~20yrs in the Middle East. Oh goody.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

Lockheed 📈📈📈

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

time to invest in knife missiles

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Just what the world needs. I am getting some faint WWI vibes too. Maybe I am just being paranoid. But it seems like this could expand to more middle eastern countries than you've listed, should things go horribly wrong. I could also see this being turned into another proxy war—revenge by Russia for Western support for Ukraine.

load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 54 points 10 months ago (4 children)

And this can easily lead to more wars in the Middle East. Once more, innocent will die, and soldiers will not return home because stupid bloodlusting leaders of Israel, Iran, and Hamas just can't get enough blood.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 49 points 10 months ago (28 children)

Real question: why is the us so involved with israel?
Is it just a "sunk cost fallacy" thing or is it any more than that?

It feels weird sinking so much money for someone else's wars over so many decades.. like trillions over wars and apart from ukraine recently its been always and only israel demanding the aid

[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Real question: why is the us so involved with israel?

they're meant to be a main ally in the middle east for the US

most of the other countries are either allied with Russia/China/Iran/etc or too unstable

there's also massive israel lobbying in the US https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_lobby_in_the_United_States

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

tbh kinda the US's only ally. Turkey kinda is, and Saudi Arabia really just sells us oil.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The US is a global, industrial empire. To maintain that position, we need to make sure threats to our influence are kept to a minimum, and we need to provide security to the global trade system that we and our allies benefit from. Israel is aligned with the West culturally and ideologically, and so it's a natural partner, and given its location in an oil-rich region, right next to the Suez Canal, and a stone's throw from or bordering several of our major global adversaries' proxies, it's a natural and necessary ally.

Anything else, like the Evangelicals' bizarre obsession, is purely coincidence or post-facto.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Half of evangelicals support Israel because they believe it is important for fulfilling end-times prophecy

According to prophecy, Israel must exist to bring about rapture, when Jesus's followers will ascend to heaven and everyone else will be killed. Since they are not followers of Christ all Israelis would be killed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/05/14/half-of-evangelicals-support-israel-because-they-believe-it-is-important-for-fulfilling-end-times-prophecy/

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They probably think they're s clever. "Silly Jews, you think you've got such a good deal with all this free money but wait until the magic sky man comes and murders every one of you in cold blood because that's what somebody who claims to love people does, murders billions of them, and you're first! Ha ha. Silly magic sky man, doesn't even know about all the loopholes."

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Corruption and money laundering through the military complex. I mean who needs free medical care anyways, right? That's for European commies.

load more comments (24 replies)
[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Proxy war between the US and Iran

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think if Iran steps in with feet on the ground, the US probably will too, unfortunately.

Fucking Nicky Hailey is foaming at the mouth for it to happen.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (30 children)

Oh the rogue nation wants to play along? Isn't supporting the Russians against my country enough?

load more comments (30 replies)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (5 children)

As if Iran's fingers weren't in the fucking pot from the start of this shit show. Bitch we've got the receipts that you all but handed Hamas the plans for their little murder rape and pillaging expedition.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

For real. This is so blatantly a play by Iran to drive a wedge between Israel and the Islamic nations it has recently been normalizing relations with - UAE, Bahrain, Sudan, Morocco... They were in talks with Saudi Arabia, and that would have been a bridge too far.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Isn't this the plot to Arma 3? Does Iran have the East wind Device?!

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›