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According to an Al Jazeera journalist that's in southern gaza, the water still hasn't been turned on, despite what Israel said.
He also said it's pointless to say that Israel will turn the water back on without restoring the electricity, because electricity is needed to pump the water to Gaza.
So this just looks like a pr piece by Israel to look like they're doing something when they're not.
Any updates? I'd expect a few hours for everything to be up and running again, but if there's still nothing, then it's definitely just for show.
Al Jazeera has just reported that water is trickling through to a few areas. No other details that I've seen yet.
Edit: it's only to one area of Khan Yunis in Gaza. And the infrastructure is destroyed there, so people are unable to get to the water as of yet. Palestinians are also reiterating that without electricity for the water pumps they're unable to get water from the tanks
Bah. It didn't even matter then. No wonder Netanyahu "capitulated".
I'm not sure at this point in time, but I'll be looking out for that information too
Can you please link the Al Jazeera source?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/16/gazas-dire-humanitarian-crisis-explained
Like i said, i was watching the live tv broadcast, but they also have the articles on their website.
Thos article outlines all the facets of the humanitarian crisis the Gazan’s are facing, they talk about the water situation about halfway down in the article.
All the info i saw was from the live tv broadcasts. I'll have a look for written articles on their site, you can have a look at their site too, in the meantime, if you want to.
Maybe it takes time for water to circulate? Also i have no idea how water systems work but i feel it might work without electricity, at least parts of it, just by using gravity.
Possibly. But Palestinians have also said that pipelines are damaged or destroyed by Israel's bombing in all areas if Gaza.
So if water is going through then it's sitting in huge tanks and not able to go through the pipelines to whichever houses/ buildings which are not yet rubble because of destroyed/ damaged pipes and no electricity to pump the water through any undamaged pipes.
So they probaby need to collect the water via water trucks. But there's no petrol either.
They could make the dangerous walk to the water tanks, but Israel has been bombing south Gaza as well, where everyone from northern Gaza was told to go.
Usually if you want it gravity-fed you need water towers to generate the needed pressure for the immediate area. Then you also likely still need some pumps to cover more area. The pumps don't work when the power is out, thus very low water pressure or straight up no water.
The water also won't flow when the pipes have been bombed into scrap.
Thanks Biden.
Still a long way to go, but I'm really happy to see some reason come out of American and European leadership.
I'm sure some cooler heads among the Americans, Europeans and Arab league nations can figure out a way to get those hostages out, safely.
Hot headed Israeli genocidal impulses were never going to be productive.
Western pushback, publicly or privately is bound to happen as the body count grows. Hamas really did a lot of damage to the Palestinian cause with the attack last weekend, but I still don't think it's enough to completely turn a blind eye to piles of civilian bodies emerging in Gaza. I think people's feeling for fairness will get triggered sooner or later.
The US stands with Israel, but we aren't going to stand by while they commit war crimes. Good on the Biden administration for forcing this course correction. I hope to keep seeing more and stronger evidence of our commitment to human rights and the international order during this war.
We absolutely are standing by while they commit war crimes. We have been for decades.
I don't disagree, it's just nice to see my country pushing for any tiny amount of adherence to international laws in this specific case and I hope we see more of it.
If you stand with Israel then you stand with war crimes. Israel is not going to stop until it completes its ethnic cleansing mission. Don't act surprised when whatever is left of Palestine is wiped off the map sooner or later.
Don't take this (too) badly, but given what those in power have done there, "Standing with Israel" is morally the same as "Standing with Hamas", except perhaps that you're standing in a pool of blood which is maybe 100x deeper if you stand with the former than the latter.
The only side to take here that's a "moral highground" (and hence not in a pool of blood) is that of the innocent civilians who are being murdered by both sides.
during this war
It was Israel partially with America's miitary aid that made this into a war.
Yea, we're good at that.
Israel listened to US suggestions? Jesus Christ, it must be a blue moon.
Israel always listens, it can't afford not to. Just don't confuse public statements with private pressure.
The US-Israel security partnership (intelligence) and Israeli lobby carry a lot of influence in D.C., so often times those two (public vs. private) don't actually align because it takes a lot less political capital to make worthless PR statements, then to apply meaningful behind the scenes pressure.
Yeah, we can't be having them kill civilians slowly, they have to be killed off quickly with bombs and bullets.
Yay! I'm glad the US isn't entirely on board with killing civilians. Let's hope the international community especially the US can continue to pressure Israel to be humane.
Too little too late.
Any claims made by the Israeli state of apartheid army must be treated with caution and verified before, these are the same despicable evil people who claimed they saw 40 beheaded babies and the US puppet Biden lied and said he saw pictures of it, only to be proven a lie and the white house backtracking on Biden claim I mean lie of having seen pictures.
Glad Israel did.
Did they really, though? Or did they just say that they are going to do it?
Copying my reply from higher up in the thread:
it’s only to one area of Khan Yunis in Gaza. And the infrastructure is destroyed there, so people are unable to get to the water as of yet. Palestinians are also reiterating that without electricity for the water pumps they’re unable to get water from the tanks
Yeah I'm not sure id be glad yet.. with lights being off still you know there's some messed up shut going on