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[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Is the imperial ruling class perspective something we want in this community? I'm honestly just asking.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Know your enemy — Sun Tzu

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Unlike most corporate media, there are a few public* venues where the imperial core capitalists speak comparatively frankly amongst themselves, which is valuable for understanding their thinking. The CFR and The Altantic Council are examples of such think tanks. Then there are some media outlets: The Economist, The Financial Times, The WSJ.

*Though some have hard paywalls.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I really don't know what you mean by this exactly, this article talks about how Turkey is taking a completely different side than that of the rest of EU's member and literally calls Hamas "a group of freedom fighters". Nevertheless, I assume people in Lemmygrad know how to interpret imperialese and know how to tell the difference between what the author means and what the material reality behind it actually is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I primarily mean that the Council on Foreign Relations has been, for nearly a hundred years now, one of the most powerful deep state* organizations. They have determined much of the course of US imperial policy since the inter-war period, including forcing the establishment of nominally government institutions such as the CIA and National Security Council.

In this article in particular, the critique seems to be primarily that Erdogan isn't toeing the US line on the "Israel-Hamas War." They blame Erdogan specifically for general anti-US sentiment in Türkiye. They harp on the fact that Erdogan doesn't consider Hamas a terrorist organization, which is a position expected by the US led "international consensus." The final paragraph is especially telling:

Erdogan could have initially contributed much to the search for a compromise in this conflict. He has eschewed the little trust Washington may have had in him with the stridency of his anti-American language. He appears to have dealt himself out of the U.S.-led negotiations.

/* I mean deep state in the academic sense as theorized by C. Wright Mills, Peter Dale Scott, and Aaron Good.