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Eastern front of WWII was pretty scary for the fash :wholesome:

It's something everyone does if they are competent (and frequently even when they are not). The interesting part is how it demonstrates they aren't discussing social squabbling but an irreconcilable ideological difference with the anti-imperialist "tankies".

the only decent Succdem is Corbyn.

Not true. There are decent south Americans ones. They’re usually anti imperialist

the third world can bleed as long as we get some succdem policies at home

And the thing is, it isn't even realistic. Domestic and foreign policy are inextricably linked. The enclosure of the global south is a very fundamental part of the immiseration of the imperial proletariat. Every time we topple a people's republic and replace it with a band of gangsters. Every time we knock off some once in a generation labor leader so the extractive industries can be marketized and bought out by finance imperialists, we create the conditions which drive deindustrialization and put the imperial proletariat at a disadvantage.

How is some handlebar mustached auto plant worker from Detroit supposed to compete with sweatshop laborers literally living under the boot of a collaborationist military dictatorship. How is a small family farm in Pennsylvania supposed to compete with some big agra factory farm in New Mexico running entirely on exploited migrant labor? Our foreign policy, along with immigration policy and trade agreements are absolutely fundamental to producing the status quo we live in. If we want to have programs like the Green New Deal or Medicare for All, first we need to have leverage. We have none as long as the one trillion dollar a year war machine is able to crush any progress made towards this in the global south.

The entire point of US foreign policy is to ensure any superior alternative to our way of life is strangled in the crib. If we ignore that simple fact, they will strangle us just as easily.