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I was trying to watch konosuba on crunchyroll and when i opened it on my brave a pop up showed up that i need to have some drm software and whetewer i allow it. i did clik allow and it didint work either way so i watched it on Firefox and there is a thing saying that this thing is drm protected.

Soooo whats the point of this ? Is it supposed to stop you from pirating the content from their sites . If so how exatcly when you can just literaly record screen ? I honestly struggle to understand the purpose of this. Not sure if thats correct community to ask about it but it seems like you guys might know about this

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Depending on your OS it should prevent screen recording. Maybe screen recording works depending on the DRM level.

The DRM prevents you from directly downloading the files. Similarly Spotify requires DRM so it's impossible to download songs.

Obviously if it's on your device there're ways to circumvent DRM, either by recording or having the right keys.

Most of the time it's the rightholders who demand copy prevention, even if it doesn't prevent copies but annoys customers if it fails.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just wanna say that Spotify's DRM sucks. Plenty of scrapers out there.

I think it also shows that DRM is completely useless.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I know there're tools to record songs on Spotify that automatically splits and tags them. It just isn't as good as downloading directly from Deezer etc.

Yeah, DRM annoys paying customers but doesn't stop copies to appear online.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Soooo whats the point of this ? Is it supposed to stop you from pirating the content from their sites . If so how exatcly when you can just literaly record screen ? I honestly struggle to understand the purpose of this.

Well, it kind of depends on the exact type of DRM being used. But yeah, some types of streaming DRM can be circumvented with a screen capture, but these will always be worse quality. There are two types for movies and shows you'll see online when the source is a streaming site, either WEB-DL or WEB-Rip. WEB-Rip is sourced via a screen capture, I'm not super familiar, but there exists a standard called HDCP which is supposed to protect the content at the hardware/HDMI level. My understanding is this is largely ineffective as the HDCP master encryption keys have been in the public for quite some time. WEB-DL is when the raw video/audio is downloaded from the streaming provider and decrypted through some means, this is where defeating the browser-based (often Widevine) DRM often comes into play.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Someone else already said this, but to be clear, the form of drm keeps the image encrypted through to your monitor, the monitor decrypts it so you can't screen capture it without breaking the drm.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

RDPing into another computer and capturing the video feed from the remote computer should work, though

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This kind of content typically shows up as a blank rectangle on any kind of remote access software

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I assumed it was the same DRM that Zoom uses, and the rdp method works for screen recording meetings.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I didn't think zoom had any DRM out of the box tbh, I've never had any issue screen recording a meeting on my Mac at least

But yeah any DRM video on the web will use widevine, so will have the same result of the blank rectangle if the DRM doesn't pass its checks

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

You won't see any video through RDP.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Yeah it sucks, to have it work you need to enable DRM in Firefox settings, I would recommend having a separate Firefox profile (type in about:profiles) so that you isolate your DRM sites from others.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I remembered downloading that stuff for crunchyroll to work. It has to be downloaded and activated (site permissions or something) I think, it's been years since I used the site.

The point is probably to keep people for downloading and screen recording of copyrighted materials. Anime is not owned by the site, rather it is licensed out to be on the site. This has happened before where many titles straight up disappear because the license expired and wasn't paid to keep it on. Crunchyroll has no authority on how copyrighted material is displayed, rather the companies probably forced it to for legal viewing. Japan copyright laws are very strict.

Honestly, if you want to watch Anime and have the ability to download it use the official gogoanime site.