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'Simply Medieval': Russian Soldiers Held In Pits And Cellars For Refusing To Fight In Ukraine (www.rferl.org)

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A Russian soldier on July 13 was convicted of insubordination. An independent Russian news outlet reports he was among a group of conscripts held in a cellar for refusing to fight in Ukraine.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Treatment as ancient as their equipment

[+] [email protected] -6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What i really don't understand is how they just allow themselves to be treated like that.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's such an out of touch with reality thing to say. This is how authoritarianism works. You're either subservient or a criminal with no human rights. Do you think they get a choice other than being locked or hanging themselves?

This is why I'm usually careful about addressing the Russian government rather than its people. There are loads of good people in Russia and I hope eventually they're no longer forced by evil leadership to be the world's antagonists.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Serf mentality? Living in police state?

They would be treated better as POW's in any civilized country.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They are forcefully mobilised conscripts. If you get a mobilisation request in Russia you have two options: serve or go to jail. But since Russia is now sending prisoners to the battlefield, your two options are: serve or serve.

If you try organise a protest, you'll be beaten up, go to jail and then sent to a battlefield. And if you manage to organise a very very big protest, everyone who participated will be shot dead by Rosgvardia. And don't worry, Russia has centuries of experience of killing millions of protesters at once, so while it might be unimaginable in a Western country, it's business as usual there.

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