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[–] [email protected] 95 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Decided to give outlook a try cause of good integration on Windows. Uninstalled it the second I saw an ad on my inbox. it even shows up as regular mail and you wouldn't know it is an ad unless you look closely at the small Ad sign at the corner.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Also the new version, which might be beta still, just sends you to a web browser to do shit in. If I wanted to open emails in a web browser in the first place then I'd do that.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

what?? I've had Outlook for years and never saw any ads? Did you download some sketchy cracked version?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

The new outlook on windows 11 23H2. And there’s also a subscription model just to remove ads lmao

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Windows 23H2?? I'm on windows 11, are you from the future or something? How awful is it on a scale from 9 to 10?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Ugh, native ads are the worst! 🤬

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 9 months ago (3 children)

We are REQUIRED to use outlook at my job, along with all the MS bullshit. I've changed my Thunderbird interface to make it look exactly like outlook, synced my calendars, and kept using it for the past year or so. They have no clue. I hate Microsoft with passion, I will spent hours of my free time to find ways to be out of their ecosystem if I need to, and I usually manage to do so.

[–] sarmale 13 points 9 months ago (17 children)

Cant they see the email domain? Or thunderbird accesses outlook?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago

AFAIK thunderbird can access outlook.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

There are people in my workplace (which uses Gmail) who willingly use Outlook to access it then complain about Outlook problems. Outlook is the biggest piece of trash email client software I've ever used.

At one place I worked at, it was OBLITERATING any mails from one particular person because of a completely unrelated filter I had. Email notifications from them would appear for a few seconds, then the email would completely disappear (not even in deleted, or in any filter folders). Everyone else cced could see the emails except me, and IT couldn't figure it out. I had to disable ALL my filters which trashed my inbox with stupid work circulars. Fuck Outlook.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 9 months ago (1 children)

True gigachads write emails from the terminal.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

mutt ftw

or elm, if you wanna go oldschool

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

The Lemmy client I'm using thinks your account is -420 years old

Edit: And somehow I managed to take the screenshot at 4:20 AND I'm not even high. Yet.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I use Voyager too, was going to comment the same xD

Maybe it's intentional, 420 years:

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's very intentional, I'm from 420 years in the future. 🤣

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Cannot Start Microsoft Outlook. Cannot open the Outlook window. The set of folders cannot be opened. The operation has failed.

As the de-facto IT admin in a small business, this message haunts my dreams and I hate that I know it by heart. Time to make a new mail profile and configure all the accounts again. Its not like it's the seventh time on this computer. It's not like I've reinstalled Outlook three times already as per Microsoft's "accepted solution".

There's a reason I don't use Microsoft software on my hardware.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

One time, when I had to use outlook, someone called me asking why I wasn't replying to emails since like 3 days. Turned out Outlook had decided I could receive emails, but when I was replying, the email would put in a special folder "to be sent" or something, because the MS outgoing server was not working. I looked like a fucking imbecile when I figured it out and tried to explain what happened.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Back when I was on windows, I didn’t even bother with clients anymore. The new outlook has ads in it and barely works.

I use Thunderbird now since they updated their interface and it’s very pretty and fast. Couldn’t recommend it enough.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I never thought I'd use a dedicated email client anywhere but work, but Thunderbird is really good.

I also use K-9 on mobile, which I like even more, but marking messages as spam never seems to stick. I still keep getting absolute trash from Google, even though I unsubscribed to updates a long time ago.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I was a K-9 user for a time there. I sprung for the Nine client's 1 time buy for my work email so I could control with a schedule notifications and mail retrieval.

I now use it for my Gmail client so I can add inline photos to my messages on Android.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago (8 children)

I know it's hip to bash all things Microsoft, but Outlook is my life at work. It's absolutely fine if you're not predisposed to hating things.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

Yeah I don't mind Outlook, I also use it for work and it does the job just fine.

And it has folders. I still don't like Gmail's "labels"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Outlook is fine, but you can tell there is no real competition and they just haven't really bothered putting any effort into it for years.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Yup. So is edge and teams with 365.

But most of these people haven't got a clue what they're talking about. The other has never worked in an office environment.

Even fewer yet, had the displeasure of working with g suite.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

It's better than the native Mail app by Apple.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I use thunderbird, though it really feels like it has terrible performance for me. Feels like a really heavy program for just an email client.

Still better than having ads on your client.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thunderbird is great for me. I've used it for near on twenty years, and it flies compared to Outlook, especially for searching.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

The problem is. Nowadays all email clients have to be browsers cause email text is sent as html

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

After the redesign I'm honestly surprised half of the world is not on Thunderbird already.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

There's a setting to make it use the old interface. I don't know what I'll do when they remove it :(

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I still use thunderbird. It works well.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I was using Thunderbird when I switched to Fedora, but then I found out about Evolution. If you use GNOME, I think it's much better.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

Nice one, made me chuckle!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

I was expecting a thunderbird meme.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

owa is so much better than outlook for me, at least for my work email. There's actual dark mode, the servers seem to do all the heavy lifting so it never seems slow, the attachment preview is better and i can download a message as .eml instead of proprietary .msg format. Probably once a day I have to hit F5 because it starts acting weird. You can also make it a PWA. Seriously if you have to use corporate email give OWA a shot.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

the servers seem to do all the heavy lifting so it never seems slow

Never thought the day would come when an EMAIL CLIENT's performance benefited from cloud processing. How bloated is this shit?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

“HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO send emails. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF neuron paths IN cute wrinkles LAYERS THAT FILL MY brain. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR outlook AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT. HATE. HATE.”

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

I use Luke Smith's script https://muttwizard.com/ to set up neomutt usually. Or Thunderbird. I have tried to get mutt working many times on my own and at this point I honestly dont think that I am smart enough.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

takes Notes oh no, this is even worse!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I haven't really used an e-mail client since I got my hotmail account. Then later went to gmail.

Are there any advantages over using a web interface?

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